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Message:: [QUOTE="autograf, post: 2236373, member: 74416"]Well, I have no bias towards any coins. My two daughters, FROM CHINA, are the reason I'm collecting them for them. They're counterfeited SOMEWHERE if not in China....maybe somewhere else in Asia but everything else is counterfeited in China....software, movies, purses, pens, clothes, tablets, etc, etc, etc. I speak from firsthand knowledge as I bought many of them in China on our last adoption trip. I wasn't collecting bullion then, so I wasn't looking for silver pandas. I was fortunate that I weighed them and that the sellers gave me my money back. He also had tons of 1/10, 1/4 and 1 ounce gold pandas as well. And he had some trade dollars. He also had a ton of silver rounds. And I have no idea if he was going to sell them to anyone else. He had 2-5 or more of each panda from 2008 to 2015. I only bought the ones I needed back to 2009. When I told him they weighed 1.2 ounces, he told me I had to take them out of the air tites. I told him I had and he said they couldn't be fake. I told him there was no way they would weigh 1.2 ounces. They weren't even good fakes. Although they looked good. I did tell the people running the show of my plight and that I had gotten my money back, so that was at least good. Told them I was concerned they would be resold and that was why I was telling them. Don't know what happened from there.[/QUOTE]