Fake or not?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Dark Elf, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf New Member

    Hello! Would you be so kind to define these coins? Fakes or not?
     

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  3. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    From those photogs it's impossible to tell conclusively. Where did you buy them? Reputable dealer or Craigs List?
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 No Common Cents! Supporter

    They look fine to me. What would make you think they may not be real? How did you acquire them?
     
  5. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    where did you buy them, how much did you pay for them is always the first questions.

    With ASEs the fakes are good but the dots are slightly elongated on the reverse between the verbage. Yours doesn't show that ... but I'm no "real/fake" ASE expert.
    There were threads about them on CT in the past though, you may want to search them out.
     
  6. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Did you do your standard due dillagence testing Beforeyou bought?
    Checking the weight, size and magnetic field checks...
     
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    start with a magnet, that would be your first step.
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I know pictures can be deceiving but they look fine to me. Again, please answer the questions posted by other CT members. The answers are all clues.

    Welcome to CT.
     
  9. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    here some cheap insurance, you can get them for just a couple dollars
    On the bay.
     
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  11. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Everyone that collects or invests in bullion and coins should
    Have a rare earth magnet, cheap insurance !
     
  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Can you explain it a little more? What exactly is it, just a magnet?
     
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  13. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Nothing looks out of the ordinary, but photos can be deceiving, and so can really good fakes. Where you got them might help. Also, can you weigh them and/or do you have a magnet?
     
  14. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I see a turkey
     
  15. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Simply put silver DOESN'T
    stick to a magnet but can be maneuvered around somewhat by a strong magnet.
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    A cool metal detector like this whites 6000DI with it's meter also helps distinguish between fakes without spending up $$ for a metals verifier.
     
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  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Rare-earth magnets are strong permanent magnets made from alloys of rare-earth elements. Developed in the 1970s and 1980s, rare-earth magnets are the strongest type of permanent magnets made, producing significantly stronger magnetic fields than other types such as ferrite or alnico magnets. The magnetic field typically produced by rare-earth magnets can exceed 1.4 teslas, whereas ferrite or ceramic magnets typically exhibit fields of 0.5 to 1 tesla. There are two types: neodymium magnets and samarium–cobalt magnets. Magnetostrictive rare-earth magnets such as Terfenol-D also have applications, e.g. in loudspeakers. Rare-earth magnets are extremely brittle and also vulnerable to corrosion, so they are usually plated or coated to protect them from breaking, chipping, or crumbling into powder.

    The development of rare-earth magnets began around 1966, when K. J. Strnat and G. Hoffer of the US Air Force Materials Laboratory discovered that an alloy of yttrium and cobalt, YCo5, had by far the largest magnetic anisotropy constant of any material then known.[1][2] The term "rare earth" can be misleading, as these metals are not particularly rare or precious;[3][4] they are about as abundant as tin or lead.[5] However rare earth ores are unevenly distributed, with the major source being China,[6] which has led countries to classify rare earth metals as strategically important.[7] Recent Chinese export restrictions on these materials have led other countries to initiate research programs to develop strong magnets that do not require them.

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    Neodymium magnets (small cylinders) lifting steel balls. As shown here, rare-earth magnets can easily lift thousands of times their own weight.
     
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  17. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The scientific explanation above, but it simple terms a very strong magnet :)
     
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  18. Dnoxal

    Dnoxal New Member

    Seems fine to me, give some more detail and it will help me/us determine wether it’s fake or not.
     
  19. Mr Roots

    Mr Roots Underneath The Bridge

    99.9% chance they are real.

    In this case a scale will do more good than a magnet.
     
  20. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf New Member

    Thank you for your answers! I just decided to know people's opinions about these coins. I checked these coins with magnets, iodine, iсе. Everything is fine. My paranoia led me there :) Ahahaha! I bought these coins in our local coin shop. 2000 russian roubles for each coin.
     
  21. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf New Member

    Reaction with iodine is great. Iodine "burns" the surface of the coin. It becomes purple-black. Reaction is immediate. Both coins passed this test.
    Reaction with magnets is good. Small magnet was falling really slowly.
    Ice melts immediately. I suppose these coins are genuine.
     
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