Earliest Dated Coin

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  1. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

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    It's a Hexagram coin of Constans II

    Constans II + his son Constantine IV on the right, with his other sons Heraclius + Tiberius on the Reverse



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    Here is a Roman coin of Hadrian dated year (ÐCCCLXXIIII) 874 from the founding of Rome.



    + supposedly this is the earliest dated coin of all, Dated Year 1 of the Samian occupation of Zankle.
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I think he was referring to the dating "the third year of the Showa reign"...
     
  4. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    There are 2 coins issued by Alfonso VIII of Spain. They are
    both dated 1204 in Roman numerals. One is an obol the other
    is a denaro. They are pictured at the Medieval Coinage web
    site, sited earlier, under the Date Heading 1166. I own
    obol #2 that is pictured and denaro #3. The Arabic coins are
    fun to collect but I have hard time reading the date.
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Robert Levinson's The Early Dated Coins of Europe, 1234-1500, is really interesting.

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    I bought a copy at a show ten years ago and still enjoy owning it, despite having not yet owned a single Levinson-listed coin. (I believe my earliest dated coin so far has been 1506 or thereabouts - just a few years too "modern" for Levinson, whose reference cuts off at 1500).
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Nope. It was a 1505-KH Hungarian denar.

    Looking back at that, and the topic of early dated coins, inspired me to repost my old Hungarian denar collection here.

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  7. alde

    alde Always Learning

    I know this is an old thread but I just ordered the Levenson book and find this subject very interesting. I do have one coin with a pre 1500 date in Aribic numerals I thing 1497 but can’t remember for sure. I will look when I get home. It’s a silver German coin. I understand these dated coins are quite scarce and sell quickly when they are available.
     
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  8. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I picked this one up post auction sales from Heritage... lf (88).jpg lf (89).jpg
     
  9. alde

    alde Always Learning

    That's a beautiful ducat. I looked at my coin and it's a 1475 Saxon spitzgroschen (Levinson 1-148) like this one from the CNG archives. I will photograph mine when I have a chance. Spitzgroschen_1475,_Leipzig,_CNG (1).jpg
     
  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Fantastic coin, but I don't see the date.
     
  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Weird as it seems, the copper/silver coinage were early dated since 1200s/ but for some strange reason, gold coins were rarely dated before 1500. Koln (Cologne) had Roman Numeral dated goldguldens in 1440s. I have a 1488 Demi Noble from Brabant/ Low Countries. Bern struck a 4 Goldgulden 1492/ Austria a 7 Dukaten 1486 issue to commerate Maximilians marriage.
     
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  12. alde

    alde Always Learning

    This table shows the shape of the medieval numerals. It's two digits 7 and 5. They kinda look like an upside down v and a 7.
     
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  13. tibor

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    Dating of European coins using a calendar system that
    is most similar to the one we use today started in 1234 AD
    in Roskilde, Denmark. The next coins were dated 1372 by
    Aachen, Germany and Schoonvorst-Sichem, Netherlands.
    The first collectible date would be from Aachen, 1374.

    First dated copper coin, 1481 from Brabant.

    First dated gold was 1436 from Cologne, Mainz, Palatinate
    and Trier. This series of coins were minted through 1438,
    some common and others very rare. A few were dated
    after this but regularly issued did not start until 1490 in Germany
    and 1487 for the rest of Europe.

    Panzerman's beautiful gold ducat from 1497 has two varieties.
    the Levinson catalogue number for his is 1-362a.

    Austria struck a dated gold 7 dukat, but it was struck after 1500.

    Alde's coin is dated (14)75. On the second image to the left
    of the star an upside down V and L are the date.

    Many ancient coins have regnal dates. The establishment of
    an empire,city,state or ruler. The Greek alphabet is used
    commonly. Byzantine coins especially copper/bronze coins
    do this as well but they use Roman numerals. Arabic coins
    minted from the mid 600's onward have dates but their numbers
    are difficult to read.
     
  14. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Thank you tibar. That is interesting.
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    @tibor was my mentor when I was (briefly) collecting early-dated Hungarian ducats.
     
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