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<p>[QUOTE="Rono, post: 834266, member: 6492"]Howdy folks,</p><p> </p><p>Most delightful discussion. </p><p> </p><p>I've got a nice if not longish article on inflation deflation hyperinflation etc. that is interesting reading. </p><p> </p><p>However, a couple of things. There seems to be some disagreement about the economy and existing state of affairs. This is sort of incorrect from my perspective. What we have is a dual economy - an Economy of Yes and an Economy of No, if you will. </p><p> </p><p>In the Economy of Yes, my spouse and I have decent jobs with benefits and some sort of pension (DB or DC), an IRA, a 401K, some savings, maybe some taxable investments, 30 year fixed rate mortgage, kids are in school. Hey, life is good. "more wine?".</p><p> </p><p>In the Economy of No, I had a job at the factory but they closed and are now building them in China. Then I was working construction but that ended a couple of years ago with the subprime meltdown. My unemployment ran out. Wifey works at walmart making $10. Neither of us have any benefits and hope we don't get sick. Had to cash out my pension and 401 to pay bills but we're now behind on the mortgage and they're threatening foreclosure. Savings are gone, no IRA, no retirement, son's on drugs and daughter's pregnant. Life sucks. "You have another one of those beers?"</p><p> </p><p>And folks the problem is that the latter category is bloody huge and the former doesn't even realize the latter exists. Hell, you listen to the Kudlows of the world and it's all great. If you have money in stocks, you're doing great. But think about what's supporting the stock market.</p><p> </p><p>It's all the Quantitative Easing money Uncle Ben's been dropping from B-2 bombers looking for a home. Interest rates are zero and all that excess money has to go somewhere and the stock market is about the only game in town with a positive ROI (except gold and silver, TYVM!).</p><p> </p><p>So the stock market gains right now are simply the manifestation of inflation. And if a lot of that money that's being held by the banks ever starts to circulation - look out kids. </p><p> </p><p>Before I post the article, anyone ever visist <a href="http://www.shadowstats.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.shadowstats.com" rel="nofollow">www.shadowstats.com</a>? Great site where he calculates all the gov't stats the way they used to be calculated before they started fiddling with the formulae. </p><p> </p><p>Anyway, when you have time read this article.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/hera030910.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/hera030910.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/hera030910.html</a></p><p> </p><p>And have a good day,</p><p> </p><p>peace,</p><p> </p><p>rono[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Rono, post: 834266, member: 6492"]Howdy folks, Most delightful discussion. I've got a nice if not longish article on inflation deflation hyperinflation etc. that is interesting reading. However, a couple of things. There seems to be some disagreement about the economy and existing state of affairs. This is sort of incorrect from my perspective. What we have is a dual economy - an Economy of Yes and an Economy of No, if you will. In the Economy of Yes, my spouse and I have decent jobs with benefits and some sort of pension (DB or DC), an IRA, a 401K, some savings, maybe some taxable investments, 30 year fixed rate mortgage, kids are in school. Hey, life is good. "more wine?". In the Economy of No, I had a job at the factory but they closed and are now building them in China. Then I was working construction but that ended a couple of years ago with the subprime meltdown. My unemployment ran out. Wifey works at walmart making $10. Neither of us have any benefits and hope we don't get sick. Had to cash out my pension and 401 to pay bills but we're now behind on the mortgage and they're threatening foreclosure. Savings are gone, no IRA, no retirement, son's on drugs and daughter's pregnant. Life sucks. "You have another one of those beers?" And folks the problem is that the latter category is bloody huge and the former doesn't even realize the latter exists. Hell, you listen to the Kudlows of the world and it's all great. If you have money in stocks, you're doing great. But think about what's supporting the stock market. It's all the Quantitative Easing money Uncle Ben's been dropping from B-2 bombers looking for a home. Interest rates are zero and all that excess money has to go somewhere and the stock market is about the only game in town with a positive ROI (except gold and silver, TYVM!). So the stock market gains right now are simply the manifestation of inflation. And if a lot of that money that's being held by the banks ever starts to circulation - look out kids. Before I post the article, anyone ever visist [URL="http://www.shadowstats.com"]www.shadowstats.com[/URL]? Great site where he calculates all the gov't stats the way they used to be calculated before they started fiddling with the formulae. Anyway, when you have time read this article. [URL]http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/hera030910.html[/URL] And have a good day, peace, rono[/QUOTE]
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