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<p>[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 999172, member: 11668"]Correct.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Incorrect. Federal Reserve Notes are obligations of the US government, backed by the assets of the issuing Federal Reserve Bank. You're thinking of Federal Reserve BANK Notes, last issued in the 1930s...those were direct obligations of the Federal Reserve Banks.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>Wildly incorrect. Those constitutional restrictions apply to the States, not to the federal government. The federal government has been making government-issue paper currency legal tender since the 1860s, with some types such as United States Notes being unbacked by any specific assets. The creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 didn't somehow allow the government to do anything it couldn't legally do before.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>The Eagle coins were made legal tender because that's the only way collectors are interested in them. Their predecessors, the American Arts Gold issues, were very unpopular since they were just bullion, with no legal tender value. (Bullion investors needn't care about the difference, but there are a lot more *coin* collectors than *medal* collectors....) But that has nothing to do with the issuing authority of the coins: Like all U.S. coins, they're issued by the U.S. Treasury. The Federal Reserve doesn't issue coins; it buys them from the Treasury at face value. *Currency* doesn't have value until the Fed issues it; *coin* has value as soon as the Mint issues it *to* the Fed. (Basically, coin still has the same status that United States Notes used to have in the old days.)</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>This is nonsense. If you buy a 1794 silver dollar, certainly a government-issue coin, the tax is based on the purchase price, not the face value ($1) or the bullion value ($15-ish). Where did you get the idea that the face/bullion value of a coin somehow prevents tax from applying to any other value it may have? Not from anything in U.S. law....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 999172, member: 11668"]Correct. Incorrect. Federal Reserve Notes are obligations of the US government, backed by the assets of the issuing Federal Reserve Bank. You're thinking of Federal Reserve BANK Notes, last issued in the 1930s...those were direct obligations of the Federal Reserve Banks. Wildly incorrect. Those constitutional restrictions apply to the States, not to the federal government. The federal government has been making government-issue paper currency legal tender since the 1860s, with some types such as United States Notes being unbacked by any specific assets. The creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 didn't somehow allow the government to do anything it couldn't legally do before. The Eagle coins were made legal tender because that's the only way collectors are interested in them. Their predecessors, the American Arts Gold issues, were very unpopular since they were just bullion, with no legal tender value. (Bullion investors needn't care about the difference, but there are a lot more *coin* collectors than *medal* collectors....) But that has nothing to do with the issuing authority of the coins: Like all U.S. coins, they're issued by the U.S. Treasury. The Federal Reserve doesn't issue coins; it buys them from the Treasury at face value. *Currency* doesn't have value until the Fed issues it; *coin* has value as soon as the Mint issues it *to* the Fed. (Basically, coin still has the same status that United States Notes used to have in the old days.) This is nonsense. If you buy a 1794 silver dollar, certainly a government-issue coin, the tax is based on the purchase price, not the face value ($1) or the bullion value ($15-ish). Where did you get the idea that the face/bullion value of a coin somehow prevents tax from applying to any other value it may have? Not from anything in U.S. law....[/QUOTE]
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