I have a feeling, and it's just a guess, that there's a difference between what you're talking about and what everyone else is talking about when it comes to investing in real estate. I think everyone here is talking about buying 1,2,3, or tops 10 unit resident rental properties. Whereas I am guessing you are talking about real estate involving 15+ unit resident rental properties, or even commercial real estate. Wouldn't you agree that it's a much different experience owning a 1 or 2 family home as a rental property, compared to an apartment building with 15+ units or a mall? So much about these 2 situations is different, including an important one, which is the relationship the owners have with the renters. Again, it's just my guess. But it would make all the difference between your experiences and that of others in this discussion.