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<p>[QUOTE="Blaubart, post: 1778454, member: 37498"]If a .999 round sticks to a magnet like it's made of iron, you can be sure it's a fake regardless of wether or not you have a genuine .999 round to compare it to.</p><p> </p><p>Likewise, if a strong magnet has no effect on it whatsoever, then it's no good.</p><p> </p><p>If it passes both tests mentioned above, you can compare it with a known good sample with a magnet test, but I wouldn't rely solely on a magnet test for a "pass". If it passes, then I move on to other testing methods. Depending on the source, I might use several different methods on site, or I might not test at all until I get home.</p><p> </p><p>I have an uncle who has about a hundred silver rounds and he was showing them to me one evening last summer. We got to talking about the magnet test and I told him I had a magnet in the car and I'd be happy to show him how it worked. I didn't want to scratch them, so I passed it within an inch or two over the rounds he had laid out on the table just to show him how it would pull on them a little. When I did, two of the rounds jumped up and stuck to the magnet.</p><p> </p><p>While a magnet test doesn't offer a definitive pass, it can detect some fakes with absolute certainty. After seeing how quick and simple the magnet test is, my uncle was kicking himself in the rear for not knowing about it earlier. The good news is he bought most of these rounds back when silver was around $5 an ounce, so the cost of a good magnet would have been more than he lost by not detecting these two fakes.</p><p> </p><p>All that being said, the magnet test is not quite as simple when testing 90% silver and especially sterling silver. Sterling silver is usually 92.5% silver and the other 7.5% is typically some sort of copper alloy. There are proprietary blends out there that supposedly offer better resistance to tarnishing, or increase the strength of the item. But the only thing it must contain in order to be called sterling silver in the US is 92.5% silver. The other 7.5% could be iron and I have found some sterling silver jewelry that stuck to a magnet, but passed all other tests.</p><p> </p><p>90% silver is a little more of a grey area. If a 90% silver coin sticks to a magnet, of course it's bad, but it's much harder to detect the pull that the magnet exerts on the coin as the coin moves across the magnet or vice versa. This is especially true with dimes and quarters. Silver dollars are about the only coins I send down my magnet slide to test, and I have a fake that will fool most people in a magnet test if they don't test it alongside a known good sample. But if you send them both down the slide at the same time, the fake slides down a little faster than the real thing.</p><p> </p><p>The bottom line is simple: It is prudent to use multiple methods to test bullion. Use each test for what it is good for. A magnet test is good at quickly detecting cheap fakes that contain ferrous metals. But like any other method out there, do not use it as the only test you employ to confirm bullion.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Blaubart, post: 1778454, member: 37498"]If a .999 round sticks to a magnet like it's made of iron, you can be sure it's a fake regardless of wether or not you have a genuine .999 round to compare it to. Likewise, if a strong magnet has no effect on it whatsoever, then it's no good. If it passes both tests mentioned above, you can compare it with a known good sample with a magnet test, but I wouldn't rely solely on a magnet test for a "pass". If it passes, then I move on to other testing methods. Depending on the source, I might use several different methods on site, or I might not test at all until I get home. I have an uncle who has about a hundred silver rounds and he was showing them to me one evening last summer. We got to talking about the magnet test and I told him I had a magnet in the car and I'd be happy to show him how it worked. I didn't want to scratch them, so I passed it within an inch or two over the rounds he had laid out on the table just to show him how it would pull on them a little. When I did, two of the rounds jumped up and stuck to the magnet. While a magnet test doesn't offer a definitive pass, it can detect some fakes with absolute certainty. After seeing how quick and simple the magnet test is, my uncle was kicking himself in the rear for not knowing about it earlier. The good news is he bought most of these rounds back when silver was around $5 an ounce, so the cost of a good magnet would have been more than he lost by not detecting these two fakes. All that being said, the magnet test is not quite as simple when testing 90% silver and especially sterling silver. Sterling silver is usually 92.5% silver and the other 7.5% is typically some sort of copper alloy. There are proprietary blends out there that supposedly offer better resistance to tarnishing, or increase the strength of the item. But the only thing it must contain in order to be called sterling silver in the US is 92.5% silver. The other 7.5% could be iron and I have found some sterling silver jewelry that stuck to a magnet, but passed all other tests. 90% silver is a little more of a grey area. If a 90% silver coin sticks to a magnet, of course it's bad, but it's much harder to detect the pull that the magnet exerts on the coin as the coin moves across the magnet or vice versa. This is especially true with dimes and quarters. Silver dollars are about the only coins I send down my magnet slide to test, and I have a fake that will fool most people in a magnet test if they don't test it alongside a known good sample. But if you send them both down the slide at the same time, the fake slides down a little faster than the real thing. The bottom line is simple: It is prudent to use multiple methods to test bullion. Use each test for what it is good for. A magnet test is good at quickly detecting cheap fakes that contain ferrous metals. But like any other method out there, do not use it as the only test you employ to confirm bullion.[/QUOTE]
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