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Message:: [QUOTE="BDA, post: 822788, member: 23590"]I understand you points, and you opinion. No worries. In the gun world, where I am well versed, it is normal to pay premiums for high grade firearms, so I understand the reason behind paying a premium for a MS or PF 70, 69, ect.. Where I draw the line is the baseball card & comic book form of collecting.... as in, mints making millions of "instant collectibles" which are not truly collectible. Card & comic companies come out with so much "collectible" items, monthly, thats its a false market. I can see similarities in the coin market as well. The ones I do buy slabbed are only from years early in the run of ASE's... because I like proofs.. all else is gold coins, silver bullion bars from well known makers and toned morgans that are slabbed. From what I've seen so far though, non slabbed coins dont get the prices.. or the flood of buyers... on the selling sites. The ASE's I'm seeing in flips, dont get much over spot, no matter how nice the appear to be.[/QUOTE]