Featured Counterfeit Gold Eagles w/pics of core taken out.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Bedford, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. john59

    john59 Well-Known Member

    Just think of all the dealers that passed the fakes to there to customers Nice
     
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  3. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily true. I would suggest these were bought off of the internet by someone who thought they were getting a "steal" and then sold them into the dealer marketplace. Dealer who have been in business a long time because of their character and integrity only stay in business because of said integrity and good character. Crooked dealers seem to fade away rather quickly. They are always found out.These really are deceptive at a glance and when one is handling hundreds or thousands of them one can't look at each as one would a, say, Bust Dollar. I have learned which dealers I will and won't deal with. None are out and out crooks but some Edited. Language rules! I can be included in that group on rare occasion.
     
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  4. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    These pictures are too small to really tell.
    But none of them appear to be bad.
     
  5. john59

    john59 Well-Known Member

    So you can't say yes or no for sure ?
     
  6. dcarr

    dcarr Mint-Master

    If you are asking me, then my opinion would be that all four of the 1910 Indian $10 gold coins shown are genuine. But that could change based on better pictures or an in-hand examination.
     
  7. john59

    john59 Well-Known Member

    So your not sure if your opinion can change
     
  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I think the basic point here is that it's nearly impossible for anyone to say for sure that a coin is authentic based solely on a single photograph. This should not be a news flash.

    On the other hand, it's definitely possible to diagnose some fakes from photographs.
     
  9. john59

    john59 Well-Known Member

    So your not sure news flash?. On the other hand not worth the worth the guessing game at least here with the great posts we have on fakes
     
  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    In case the purpose of the forum has escaped many, it is NOT to belittle and harass until someone acquiesces. I am getting quite tired of it. So Stop such comments. Thanks Jim
     
  11. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    china!!
     
  12. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    What is a collector to do when it comes to verifying gold content of a coin? Besides having the coin graded by PCGS or NGC?
     
  13. john59

    john59 Well-Known Member

    You have to check in the coin books
     
  14. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    This is why I posted the pictures of the four 1910s. You can not tell a fake from a real coin based on a picture alone. There have been many pictures of questionable coins posted on this forum where the response was a one word "fake" or "counterfiet". Responses like that are counter productive and do little more than to boost the ego of the poster showing off his superior knowledge. If you can't tell us WHY it's not a real coin, then just keep your opinion to yourself.

    Nothing in the pictures of the 1910 eagles will tell you which is/are fake and anybody saying otherwise, without explanation, is deluded. According to the sources where I found the pictures, the one with the square background is a counterfeit; the others are real.
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Surely, though, you realize that some counterfeits are crude enough to be identified from photos.

    I agree that anyone saying "I can always tell a fake coin just by looking at a photo" would be a braggart or a fool (or both) -- but I don't think anyone made that claim here.

    Do you agree that anyone saying "you can never tell a fake coin just by looking at a photo" would also be wrong?

    BTW, I agree that the one-word responses are unhelpful.
     
  16. john59

    john59 Well-Known Member

    That what I said all along and most if not all can't tell you why it's fake only
    they were told that it's a fake
     
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    john59 Well-Known Member

     
  18. sgt23

    sgt23 Active Member

    Don't forget Hungarian counterfeits. They are new on the market and said to be better than China.
     
  19. Mrs. C. Gray

    Mrs. C. Gray New Member

    For a person like me, (a wanna be coin collector) the above mention of fraud is a " good to know" piece of info. Until today, I would never thought a coin like that would be fake. To me that looked perfect.
     
  20. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    This is true. I found one of those recently, looked like this:
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  21. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I found some of those in a 99 cent store, made in China. Probably imitation chocolate :)
     
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