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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Juan Blanco, post: 1568261, member: 41665&quot;]Thank you very much for this most informative post. (Does &#039;Chattahell&#039; still smell like that foundry I used to drive past, from Nashvile to Hotlanta? LOL) </p><p><br /></p><p>Interesting to see SE show dealers&#039; premium on AGEs (US bullion coin) is currently 6.14%.&nbsp; That looks sweeeet! </p><p>Compare APMEX, POG @ $1,677 : AGE w/sh/ins = $ 1,800. a 7.3% premium </p><p><br /></p><p>I did a Summer 2009 study for clients, AGEs on eBay were ~8%.&nbsp; Don&#039;t know <u>if</u> coin-shows (a lower retail) are generally cheaper than eBay (riskier buying, def) but this suggests <i>falling retail premiums </i>since then. </p><p><br /></p><p>fyi: The Wall St Journo must gets their #s from a New York Market maker (closed during the hurricane) but a useful benchmark is the &quot;Cash Prices&quot; Pages. Bookmark for future ref:</p><p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3023-cashprices.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3023-cashprices.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3023-cashprices.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>fwiw: in August 2012: </p><p>Excluding all ancillary costs (taxes, fees, AND s/h/insur) the <b>wholesale premium </b>on Gold Amer Eagles (new? old?) was 4.4% - 4.71% and for (Au) Cdn Maples, 3.9% - 4.21%. </p><p><br /></p><p>November 2012: Paying just 2% more to a reputable dealer at retail sounds really, really economical (cheap!) to me.&nbsp; So support the LCS guys at the shows!&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I have zero insights on the &#039;art-bar&#039; market per se, but currently <i>very low bullion premiums </i>suggest it will become harder and harder to find &#039;good stuff, cheaper.&#039;&nbsp; I would expect PM-related premiums to rise with any PM volatility (expect that.) Maybe your very best bet otherwise will be cultivating relationships with other trader-collectors, for niche products?&nbsp; That&#039;s just my two cents: I sincerely believe that PM coin &amp; bullion buyers/collectors have seen some of the very best premiums in USD$ history.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Barring another deflationary moment (like Oct.-Nov. 2008) I don&#039;t imagine Lows to fall or even continue to remain so indefinitely: and certainly NOT when the printing for FRNs starts in earnest.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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