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Message:: [QUOTE="Juan Blanco, post: 1586052, member: 41665"]Google it: 6% is the magic number for those seeking income. With +3% ann. inflation and rising taxes, they'll NEED it! The dividend return on the S&P 500 index has declined to about 1.5% in 2000s from 3.5% to 4.0% in the 1960s. Dividends accounted for 20-30% of stock holders' total return in the 1960s. You didn't know this? Dividends for S&P500 cos averaged over 6% mid 1940s - mid 1950s. In the late 1950s, 9 out 10 publicly-traded American companies paid dividends. And half of all NYSE cos paid special dividends, 20% of all dividends paid. Today, fewer than 1 in 5 pays any dividend at all. Therein lies the failure of American Capitalism and 'the Dream,' I fear. No dividend = fluff value, pure spec. Or, a servile corporatist govt that buys up/props 'special friends companies' in some horrid cryptofascist market dystopia. Turning Japanese? It will, no doubt, continue and probably worsen, here and elsewhere. However, more Americans (Little People) do see this as a game stacked against them. Or they've already been played. And they're right in that understanding, either way.  What do you believe WILL change? Paper-Bugs always insist we're in a "Gold Bubble" ... yet cannot show any significant participation/allocation to prove that. If "most investors" don't and won't (you insist; I'll agree) own a particular asset, how can said asset ever be a Bubble? And how can a textbook Bubble that doesn't exist pop? You've contradicted yourself there, but I read the same thing (tortured premise) everywhere. You're not alone, but it's still pure Paper-Bug propaganda.[/QUOTE]

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