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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1622007, member: 26302"]Not a "devil's investment", but you are right. Its in a 12 year bull. Do things go up forever? Actually, yes, with inflation they will. </p><p><br /></p><p>Remember that if gold goes up $68 this year, that is not one red cent of profit. That is only keeping up with inflation, keeping your purchasing power. So, in 5 years gold has to be priced about $400 higher per ounce than today just to stay EVEN. in ten years that number is about $800 per ounce higher. Trust me, if it does go up like this the PM sites will claim "victory" and "they were right". But they aren't, a successful investment has to go up more than inflation, or kick off current income. Gold cannot kick off income, so it needs to go up more than inflation to really "make money".</p><p><br /></p><p>Go back to 1933 and the "official" gold price in the US, and assume 5% inflation. What is the worth of that ounce of silver today? $1734.65. How much did you "profit" by buying that ounce of gold in 1933 and holding it until today? I would say you protected the purchasing price of your money, EXCEPT if you sell it today you owe capital gains taxes on about $1700. </p><p><br /></p><p>Has there been ups and downs? Yeah. I bought PM in the 90's when I was considered an idiot for doing so. I thought PM was seriously undervalued historically at the time. Is it STILL considered undervalued after a 12 year bull run? That's the harder question, and to me one not so easy to answer.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, an investor if they always listened to the PM "gurus" could have been hurt. Problem is that every investor has a timeline when he needs to sell. If you had to sell before the market corrected you can get very hurt.</p><p><br /></p><p>I just find it very easy to predict "market up" on a commodity innately tied to inflation in many ways. The easiest course of action price wise for all metals will always be up in an inflationary economy such as we have.</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, WILL gold be $3500 an ounce? Of course, but WHEN. If gold is $3500 an ounce in 20 years you will have lost money. It seems predictions like this, if they say it will be in a year, if it doesn't occur its always because of "market conspiracies". Just keep track who predicts what and when. I have been reading about PM since the mid 70's, since I have always loved PM, and I am simply trying to give you my historical perspective on "predictors".[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1622007, member: 26302"]Not a "devil's investment", but you are right. Its in a 12 year bull. Do things go up forever? Actually, yes, with inflation they will. Remember that if gold goes up $68 this year, that is not one red cent of profit. That is only keeping up with inflation, keeping your purchasing power. So, in 5 years gold has to be priced about $400 higher per ounce than today just to stay EVEN. in ten years that number is about $800 per ounce higher. Trust me, if it does go up like this the PM sites will claim "victory" and "they were right". But they aren't, a successful investment has to go up more than inflation, or kick off current income. Gold cannot kick off income, so it needs to go up more than inflation to really "make money". Go back to 1933 and the "official" gold price in the US, and assume 5% inflation. What is the worth of that ounce of silver today? $1734.65. How much did you "profit" by buying that ounce of gold in 1933 and holding it until today? I would say you protected the purchasing price of your money, EXCEPT if you sell it today you owe capital gains taxes on about $1700. Has there been ups and downs? Yeah. I bought PM in the 90's when I was considered an idiot for doing so. I thought PM was seriously undervalued historically at the time. Is it STILL considered undervalued after a 12 year bull run? That's the harder question, and to me one not so easy to answer. However, an investor if they always listened to the PM "gurus" could have been hurt. Problem is that every investor has a timeline when he needs to sell. If you had to sell before the market corrected you can get very hurt. I just find it very easy to predict "market up" on a commodity innately tied to inflation in many ways. The easiest course of action price wise for all metals will always be up in an inflationary economy such as we have. Btw, WILL gold be $3500 an ounce? Of course, but WHEN. If gold is $3500 an ounce in 20 years you will have lost money. It seems predictions like this, if they say it will be in a year, if it doesn't occur its always because of "market conspiracies". Just keep track who predicts what and when. I have been reading about PM since the mid 70's, since I have always loved PM, and I am simply trying to give you my historical perspective on "predictors".[/QUOTE]
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