Chinese gold and silver panda.

Much the same is true of Mexican Libertads. I like these bullion coin designs a lot too and they are sold in many fractional and multiple ounce sizes.

 

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I concur, Libertads have some good upside too. I was looking at some websites last night and it looks like the kooks are minted at 300k per year, enough but not too many. I haven't looked into the Lib's.

 

Coin World or Coin Values have had some good coverage in the past year of Mexico's Libertads and the July issue of Coin World's World Coins magazine has a decent article on Mexican Independence and Social Revolutionary coinage. If you are an ANA member you can browse these free online. I think you just sign up with your ANA membership # and email address. Or check the newsstand for a printed version.

 

Thanks for the info, I'll check it out.

 

just bought the chinese silver panda. first time i should say. my question is. will the plastic sheet that sealed the panda capsule and coin affect the coin during the long years of storage. is the plastic sheet acid free?. anyone. thanks?.

 

I have had silver pandas dated in late 1980s tone a slight pinkish color. They were in a hard capsule which was sealed in a plastic sheet, a very flexible soft clear plastic. I've since sold all of my Pandas, the silver certainly tones easily and the gold often develop red spots. Here is one image I saved of the silver toning a pinkish color and you can see how it was sealed:

 

krispy. then the plastic sheet will affect the silver coin. even with capsule. i tried the american eagle silver coin with capsule and cover it with fit-size clear cellophane bag. all those coin never tone or tarnish. and for the sheet of 30 panda coins. i might just take the plastic sheet out.

 

It may be a good idea to consider doing that.

 

with plastic on it. specially storage in a very humid place. in the long run. we can see the water vapor or some liquid on it. that can affect the silver coin.

but then. the plastic sheet proves that you did not open it up. or send them for slab or choose the good one. so it really hard to decide. isn't it my dear krispy.

 

Silca gel packs can help if you place them in the area around your bullion, but in a humid place you need to change them often as they absorb moisture from the air. You can also try using a device like Eva Dry.

I'm not too interested in slabbing bullion coins but it helps if you have a really nice Panda, if it can grade high, to be TPG slabbed because this both protects the coin and also ensures the buyer of its authenticity should you ever need to sell the coin. Panda coins being Chinese can be suspect for being counterfeit and a TPG should impart some security in this matter.

 

That's some really strange toning on that panda. The coin appears proof, with the frosty temple and frosty panda bleeding frosty on the mirror proof field. What's up with that?

 

I don't know what caused the toning but I assume the plastics the coin had been sealed in. I bought it sealed this way from a coin shop when the coin was new. It had no color and I always thought it was proof in appearance too. I never much had it out in the light as it was kept in the bank for many years and a while back I noticed it had that color starting to build around the edges, mostly on the temple side. I sold all my pandas as I didn't want to deal with Chinese coins and their low quality issues anymore so I can't really investigate this much further. If there was any confusion, that ring shape in the center of each side is the reflection of my camera lens off the coin. The surfaces were not mirror-like but were reflective and troublesome to get images without much reflections on them.

 

I see, so that ring on the temple and the panda that makes it look like it is bleeding frosty, is really the reflection of your camera lens. Interesting affect.

 

Yes that's correct. When shooting reflective silver coins I often shoot the coin placed inside a box, whose panels are cut out and replaced with translucent paper to allow diffuse even lighting. I close all sides of the box, but there is a hole on the top which my camera lens can peer through, sometimes it catches a reflection off the lens itself, even when angled a few degrees to offset this. It's a homemade contraption but related to using a light dome for the same effect. I just can't back the camera up enough due to lens limitations to actually prevent the camera from being seen in reflection.

 

I melt all the silver and gold pandas
too many fakes, Chinese shot themselves in the foot.

 

bank of china might have to increase its panda products next year due to china government allowing banks to trade bullion. gold panda from 300,000 to 900,000 and silver panda from 800,000 to 1,200,000. and i suggest they include their mint marks to reduce the total mintage. like shanghai (SH) or (S), shengyang (SY) or (Y) and shenzhen (SZ) ir (Z).

 

"whose that girl" in your new avatar? and how about an "E" mintmark for Bank of Elaine.

 

i received the 2010 chinese silver panda, 2010 mexican libertad, 2010 u.k. britannia, 2010 canadian maple leaf, 2010 australian lunar II year of the tiger. except the 2010 austrian philharmonic that i did not buy it.

 

which year the chinese silver panda design you like most?.

 

how would you take out a coin from a fit size capsule?. it wouldn't come out. is there any way to do it without damaging the capsule and coin?.