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<p>[QUOTE="Brett_in_Sacto, post: 2213615, member: 71510"]Ainslie,</p><p><br /></p><p>China may be buying gold - but I think everyone should look at the bigger picture of who HAS the gold (and therefore is making the rules).</p><p><br /></p><p>And your numbers for China's gold - well at 1464 Tonnes. Total gold held in 2014 was ~1054 tonnes. That says they've bought ~400 tonnes YTD - not 1464.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I could be wrong but I'm seeing very different numbers than what you are preaching.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second - they are nowhere near the largest. Not even in the top 5 (and when you're behind France, you're behind!!!)</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://smaulgld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Gold-Reserve-by-Country-top-20.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And when you say "China is on a like for like basis - on par with the USA" are you referring to the GDP or GDP per capita? Because you're very wrong on that too. Off by a factor of almost 8 on the GDP per capita. In order to make them a "like for like" you must involve a "factor of 5" since we have 318million people and they have 1.35billion.</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you take the two factors of GDP per capita and the population - you will see a ~40% deficit in the "like for like" theory. They are growing - and quite fast - but the numbers do not lie.</p><p><br /></p><p>53,041.98 USD (2013)</p><p>USA, GDP per capita</p><p>Total GDP (318mil people): 17,185,356,000,000 (17.185 trillion)</p><p><br /></p><p>6,807.43 USD (2013)</p><p>China, GDP per capita</p><p>Total GDP (1.35billion people): 9,189,450,000,000 (9.189 trillion)</p><p><br /></p><p>So... Let me finish by saying that I'm a reasonably educated investor. Most of my wealth is accumulation - not an astronomical wage earner. I do well, but I'm smart with what I get. Your comments seem to be targeting fear, and while there is a healthy amount of it in the economy right now - your reasons for why - and particuluarly your numbers - just aren't cutting my mustard.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I'm reading from you is..well... I'll be nice and just say it's not what I see happening in the real world - or at least not the perceptions you are pushing. What I see is a hardened point of view, and a bunch of rationalizations taken out of context to support the view.</p><p><br /></p><p>A better way to operate is to read all of the information and then FORM your views from what you have learned.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope all that read this also don't take my word for it - and do their own research. I could be wrong too, and I won't tell you otherwise.</p><p><br /></p><p>Snake Oil anyone?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Brett_in_Sacto, post: 2213615, member: 71510"]Ainslie, China may be buying gold - but I think everyone should look at the bigger picture of who HAS the gold (and therefore is making the rules). And your numbers for China's gold - well at 1464 Tonnes. Total gold held in 2014 was ~1054 tonnes. That says they've bought ~400 tonnes YTD - not 1464. Now, I could be wrong but I'm seeing very different numbers than what you are preaching. Second - they are nowhere near the largest. Not even in the top 5 (and when you're behind France, you're behind!!!) [IMG]https://smaulgld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Gold-Reserve-by-Country-top-20.png[/IMG] And when you say "China is on a like for like basis - on par with the USA" are you referring to the GDP or GDP per capita? Because you're very wrong on that too. Off by a factor of almost 8 on the GDP per capita. In order to make them a "like for like" you must involve a "factor of 5" since we have 318million people and they have 1.35billion. And if you take the two factors of GDP per capita and the population - you will see a ~40% deficit in the "like for like" theory. They are growing - and quite fast - but the numbers do not lie. 53,041.98 USD (2013) USA, GDP per capita Total GDP (318mil people): 17,185,356,000,000 (17.185 trillion) 6,807.43 USD (2013) China, GDP per capita Total GDP (1.35billion people): 9,189,450,000,000 (9.189 trillion) So... Let me finish by saying that I'm a reasonably educated investor. Most of my wealth is accumulation - not an astronomical wage earner. I do well, but I'm smart with what I get. Your comments seem to be targeting fear, and while there is a healthy amount of it in the economy right now - your reasons for why - and particuluarly your numbers - just aren't cutting my mustard. What I'm reading from you is..well... I'll be nice and just say it's not what I see happening in the real world - or at least not the perceptions you are pushing. What I see is a hardened point of view, and a bunch of rationalizations taken out of context to support the view. A better way to operate is to read all of the information and then FORM your views from what you have learned. I hope all that read this also don't take my word for it - and do their own research. I could be wrong too, and I won't tell you otherwise. Snake Oil anyone?[/QUOTE]
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