Charles II Silver Crowns

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by jamesicus, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    This past year I finally treated myself to a couple of these whopper silver crowns. I don’t collect them and I really don’t know much about them. I love their heft and weight - one big hunk of silver! These two depict my favorite British monarch - and I love the edge inscriptions. There is a personal story that accompanies the first coin that I may post here one of these days - if I can recollect it correctly, that is.

    Charles II 1662 silver Crown

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    CAROLVS · II·DEI·GRA …………………… MAG·BR·FRA·ET·HIB·REX·1662·
    (Rose below draped bust)
    first and third reverse shields have English and French arms quartered

    Edge Inscription: * + * DECVS ET TVTAMEN
    (An Ornament and a Safeguard)

    Diameter: 40mm (first issue large flan)
    Weight: 29.57gm

    Charles II 1671 silver Crown

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    CAROLVS·II · DEI·GRATIA ……………… MAG·BR·FRA·ET·HIB·REX·16(71)·

    Edge Inscription: · DECVS · ET · TVTAMEN · ANNO · REGNI · VICESIMO · TERTIO
    (An Ornament and a Safeguard - and year of minting)

    Diameter: 38mm
    Weight: 29.58gm
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Very nice. Just watched Henry V last night.
     
  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice, I need a crown of his.

    I just have a half crown.

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  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Nice ones. I don't have any of his crowns, my earliest is William III,
     
  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Charles II crowns are fun.

    I used to wear a 1662 on my Holey Coin Vest.

    It was rough, but cheap for a 17th century crown.

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  7. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    .......... and a nice one at that Mat! Thanks for posting that pic.
     
  8. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Although I don’t collect them as a specialty, Martin, I would like to have a William III.
     
  9. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Just one would suit you well, M’Lord - more than one would be a heavy burden :)
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Indeed! That old outfit weighed several pounds. Was well balanced, though, so not uncomfortable.

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  11. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Did you fondle one of his coins while you watched? - I do that kind of thing - much to the amusement of my wife, Beverly :)
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I like the details on your 1662 and the contrasting toning on your 1671.

    A 1666 would be interesting to own, what with that being from the fire and plague year, and all.
     
  13. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you. You have a great sense of history M’Lord. I am seeking such a Crown for the very reasons you cite - a great historical association!
     
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I thought I was the only one who did that sort of thing. :hilarious:
     
  15. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Sorry to say, I don't have any. Just George and Elizabeth.
     
  16. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    The first issue crowns - like this one - bear a Rose stamped underneath the bust of Charles II - this signifies native silver from the west of Britain (Wales?) was used to produce them. I used to wonder if that somehow was tied in with the origin of the Pub name for the Rose & Crown near my home - it was the “local” for my father and uncles (served as the unofficial headquarters for their Home Guard Company during WW2). But, that wasn’t the case (slim hope anyway) - the Directory of British Pub names lists Rose & Crown as a Lancastrian name associated with the War of the Roses. Too bad - here is our Rose & Crown:
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  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Why the zigzag lane markings in the street?
     
  18. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    A warning for motorists to slow down due to the side road intersections - a bus stop - and, of course, the proximity of the Pub :) (although I don’t think the city engineers had that in mind necessarily!). I am sure they were helpful to my Uncle George in checking his bearings when he exited the Rose and Crown after “time, gentlemen, please” - he was a prodigious beer drinker!
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Looks like the line painters themselves were tipsy!

    (As you've no doubt deduced, we don't have street lines like that in the 'States, at least not anywhere I've seen.)
     
  20. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Ermagad.... I do this often, for many shows....
     
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This means we must be ...

    must be ...

    *gasp*

    Nerds!!! :nailbiting:
     
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