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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jim Dale, post: 3975725, member: 100459&quot;]I have really wondered about the difference between a PF69 and PF70 coin. Of all the coins I have sent to PCGS or NGC, I have never received a PF70. In order to get a PF70, I have had to check with reputable dealers on the internet.&nbsp; They seem to never have trouble getting PF70s. I know they send in bunches of coins and they probably cherrypick the ones that they think should be PF70s. I only send in one at a time.&nbsp; I bought a 2009 (MMIX) USM, Ultra High Relief gold double eagle from a dealer in my town. It had been graded MS68 by PCGS.&nbsp; When I bought it, I got the shipping box, the wood display box, and the book (still sealed) that came with it. Since the coin was slabbed it did not fit in the wood display box.&nbsp; I bought it for about $1,300 about 10 years ago.&nbsp; I feel like I got a good deal and I know the dealer felt the same, which is the way I like to do business.&nbsp; Anyway, I contacted PCGS to find out what problems the coin had to be give an MS68. I was shuffled around a couple of times until I finally got someone that would talk to me.&nbsp; He told me that they don&#039;t keep the details of the grading.&nbsp; WHAT!&nbsp; The difference in value between an MS70 and the MS68 is considerable and you grade a coin, charge a significant fee to do so and you throw it into a slab, put a label on it and send it back, and can&#039;t or won&#039;t tell me why it is an MS68?&nbsp; I went through the same process with a coin I sent to NGC and got the same story.&nbsp; Can anyone tell me why we do business with a company that won&#039;t tell us what is wrong with a product? I&#039;ve been a CPA for over 40 years and if I treated one of my clients that way, they would fire me.&nbsp; Reading this forum tells me that I&#039;m not the only one questioning the service of TPGs.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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