Are we going to see sub $20 silver again this year?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by SCFY, Sep 11, 2013.

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Silver will...

  1. not go below $20 again this year

    54.5%
  2. go below $20 again as long as Syria bombing does not happen.

    45.5%
  1. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Uhhh, no, not even close to being correct in any regards. The Dow Jones has outperformed gold many times over. Heck, milk has outperformed gold the past 15 years. Goldbugs need to wake up.
     
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  3. Revi

    Revi Mildly numismatic

  4. Revi

    Revi Mildly numismatic

    How can that be? I think gold was around $250 an ounce back in 1998.
     
  5. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member


    It appears he's severely mathematically challenged.
     
  6. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    The dollar has lost over 98% of its value since the inception of the Fed in 1913.

    Probably hasn't lost quite 50% since 2009, but probably not too far off either. Please don't start with the crooked govt inflation numbers that don't include major costs like fuel.

     
  7. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    that is where you lose me.... the dollar has gained value not lost it. Computing power per thousand dollars (the only serious valuation) is through the roof.
     
  8. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member


    Well if the dollar has gone up per computing power per thousand dollars, then I guess over the last 100 years, gold has gone up 7,000% more than the dollar in relation to the same thing (computing power).

    And why on the earth would computer power be the only serious valuation? Can you live on computing power alone?

    Would it matter how much computing power you could afford with a thousand dollars if you couldn't afford water?
     
  9. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    OK, We have heard this so many times it is like the mantra of the silver stackers. yet, I don't think you even know what you are saying.

    Now I am not saying it is not true, because it is at least close, but in your own words please tell me why you think this is a bad thing. No stuff, like it should be obvious, just an explanation of why this is bad. I do not think you can make a valid argument to support your point.
     
  10. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Why are you getting so political? You know the mods will shut you down as soon as they see it.
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    One more and the thread will be closed for political comments.
     
  12. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    It is a real thing- our tools (which facilitate all other activity) are cheaper. Look at the advances in logistics for example. In fact we do live on computing power alone- you hit the nail on the head (we are a tool using species).
     
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    How much has the REAL dollar, (us bonds), lost in purchasing power? From my calculations it has grown quite a bit. Or would you argue sticking $100 bills under your mattress is the best investment decision. Actually, if you wish to get technical, if someone did stick bills under their mattress, shouldn't you count price appreciation of them? How much are uncirculated 1913 bills worth? :D
     
  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    How much is gold worth if you need water or food? Why are you arguing how computing power is a worthless metric for survival when gold is equally as worthless?

    My point being gold is a nice hedge, but both it and computing power are not assets to own in an apocalypse. I would own farmland with a good well and guns for a mad max kind of thing. Those and some good botany books.
     
  15. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    you are incorrect- I promise you that your local water agency rely on computing and sans computing power no water would be delivered (same for food). Computing power is the metric, all other considerations are secondary (by far)
     
  16. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    If everything else fails sir, I can go to my farm, grow crops, pump water, and survive. Believe it or not but I can actually survive fine without electricity at all, let alone "computing power". That was my point, in the end as animals we need food and water first and foremost, something computers cannot give us innately, and neither can gold. :)
     
  17. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    How is a person talking about why inflation is bad political?
     
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    Tinpot Well-Known Member

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  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Talking about inflation as such is not bad, but when one starts trying to propose reasons for possible inflation such as possible Government actions affecting it, it is political. I did leave up your post #45 with the " Please don't start with the crooked govt inflation numbers" and please don't tell me you can't tell that statement is political. There are other forums for that.
     
  20. zachfromnj

    zachfromnj Junior Member

    this is why I stopped posting on this site, turned into a buncha children arguing
     
  21. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I have to disagree. I believe as long as everyone is civil, I welcome anyone wishing to relay their perspective. Of course, maybe you consider me one of the "children". :(
     
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