Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Are these denarii fake?
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 5148151, member: 96900"]The Paulina Denar of Roman Collector is authentic.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fakes made by Lipanoff workshop (he was not alone he had employees) : </p><p>1. modern die fakes </p><p>2. transfer die fakes </p><p>3. recut transfer die fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>The fake maridvnvm posted seems to be a transfer die fake made from the authentic Lanz specimen. Someone has posted to another forum Lipanoff matrixes and plastic imprints (there was graphite applied on these to make them conductive and then matrixes were created using electroplating). And some copper positives not sure what they were exactly used for. He posted the recut transfer die and one copper positive of the Lanz specimen, which is from same sources as the Paulian obverse die. It seems like that many Lipanoffs are so deceptive because they are recut (often bust and hair) transfer die fakes.</p><p>Of course Liapnoff fakes exist which are completely free hand exist, too</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw: there is a die match (reverse and obverse) to Roman Collector´s example currently for sale at ebay which is NGC slabbed.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/Paulina-with-Maximinus-I-AR-Denarius-Silver-Coin-236-AD-Certified-NGC-XF-EF/174465002811?hash=item289eecad3b:g:lgYAAOSwMjVferQq" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.de/itm/Paulina-with-Maximinus-I-AR-Denarius-Silver-Coin-236-AD-Certified-NGC-XF-EF/174465002811?hash=item289eecad3b:g:lgYAAOSwMjVferQq" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.de/itm/Paulina-with-Maximinus-I-AR-Denarius-Silver-Coin-236-AD-Certified-NGC-XF-EF/174465002811?hash=item289eecad3b:g:lgYAAOSwMjVferQq</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Die match to Roman Collector´s example :</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/5747005-009/NGCAncients/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/5747005-009/NGCAncients/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/5747005-009/NGCAncients/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So you can decide if I am wrong and NGC, too and these coins including the Lanz specimen are Lipanoff fakes from modern dies.</p><p>Or if Lipanoff recut the imprint taken from Lanz specimen and produced recut transfer dies (2 different obverses but position and size and shape of letters and size and position of Paulina are always identical, too identical = recut).</p><p>The question is why had Lipanoff a postive copper imprint of the Lanz obverse?</p><p>For producing a recut transfer die you need an imprint of an authentic specimen.</p><p>To produce modern hand cut dies there is no need for an imprint.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1208221[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1208220[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1208222[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 5148151, member: 96900"]The Paulina Denar of Roman Collector is authentic. Fakes made by Lipanoff workshop (he was not alone he had employees) : 1. modern die fakes 2. transfer die fakes 3. recut transfer die fakes. The fake maridvnvm posted seems to be a transfer die fake made from the authentic Lanz specimen. Someone has posted to another forum Lipanoff matrixes and plastic imprints (there was graphite applied on these to make them conductive and then matrixes were created using electroplating). And some copper positives not sure what they were exactly used for. He posted the recut transfer die and one copper positive of the Lanz specimen, which is from same sources as the Paulian obverse die. It seems like that many Lipanoffs are so deceptive because they are recut (often bust and hair) transfer die fakes. Of course Liapnoff fakes exist which are completely free hand exist, too Btw: there is a die match (reverse and obverse) to Roman Collector´s example currently for sale at ebay which is NGC slabbed. [URL]https://www.ebay.de/itm/Paulina-with-Maximinus-I-AR-Denarius-Silver-Coin-236-AD-Certified-NGC-XF-EF/174465002811?hash=item289eecad3b:g:lgYAAOSwMjVferQq[/URL] Die match to Roman Collector´s example : [URL]https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/5747005-009/NGCAncients/[/URL] So you can decide if I am wrong and NGC, too and these coins including the Lanz specimen are Lipanoff fakes from modern dies. Or if Lipanoff recut the imprint taken from Lanz specimen and produced recut transfer dies (2 different obverses but position and size and shape of letters and size and position of Paulina are always identical, too identical = recut). The question is why had Lipanoff a postive copper imprint of the Lanz obverse? For producing a recut transfer die you need an imprint of an authentic specimen. To produce modern hand cut dies there is no need for an imprint. [ATTACH=full]1208221[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1208220[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1208222[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
Are these denarii fake?
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...