Anyone have images of fake PCGS slabs?

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  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    You here about these but I have seen very few images.
     
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  4. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    One I had kept an example of from eBay back in August 2014.

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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Interesting thread
     
  6. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    If you`re into more recent Chineese products:

    -1893-0-Morgan-Dollar-Copy-.jpg -1893-0-Morgan-Dollar-Copy2-.jpg

    One more:

    1884-s-Morgan-Dollar-MS61.jpg 1884-s-Morgan-Dollar-MS612.jpg
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    wow, that '84 S is close!
    The reverse gold seal looks real.
     
  8. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Wow. Looking at these tells me I won't be able to spot them just by the plastic. Looks like the coin will give some of them away.
     
  10. Westtexasbound

    Westtexasbound Active Member

    Does PCGS have a bigger problem with this? All the slabs I see are PCGS.
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Yes. You are correct. The bad guys go for the big bucks.
     
  12. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Usually the font on the label and the color of the label are pretty easy giveaways. They are getting better at this everyday though. I would expect soon enough, PCGS will be forced to image every coin that they certify similar to how NGC does it. They don't have to be very high quality images to spot the difference.
     
  13. Westtexasbound

    Westtexasbound Active Member

    Is it safe to say NGC is a safe bet since they have pictures?
     
  14. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Do all NGC coins have pictures?

    Even if they do, still, you need to examine and compare carefully. This one has got a picture. Do you think it's real or fake?

    Fake NGC 69 1989 NY Expo gold medal obs.jpg
     
  15. SteveCaruso

    SteveCaruso Counterfeit Collector

    Look at the PCGS section of The Black Cabinet:

    http://www.theblackcabinet.org/series/pcgs/

    I have thousands left to go and put up images for (from eBay auctions and other lists; I only have a few fake slabs, physically, in the stacks).

    Most are PCGS as PCGS' pre-edge-view slabs were a simple enough design that counterfeiters love them.

    If you have a serial number you want to look up to see if it's in The Black Cabinet's database, use the Counterfeit Certified Coin Search.
     
  16. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    Considering the NGC Cert Lookup tool says "Contact Customer Service" where the grade is listed is the only red flag I need. As for the original purchaser who got duped, they paid the price.
     
  17. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Wow. Good looking slab, but a really crude-looking fake medal inside.
     
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