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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1474669, member: 19065"]Deep end? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> LOL! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Okay... So we can try to dig back through CT's past threads from the last few years to share an example if you'd like, but that won't be much fun for you when I start pulling them up to review. Maybe you have short term memory about things you don't wish to remember. It's easier to hope and look ahead. </p><p><br /></p><p>As I mentionedm eventually you'll get one right from the Mint, but that doesn't make for much of a successful track record, particularly when its on coins that sold very few units <i>initially</i> due to lack of demand. The Army commems didn't reach anything near their full mintage limit authorized. The Army half sold 39,461 unc. coins and 68,349 Proof coins. That's about 15% of the coins combined authorized mintage of 750,000. Demand was so unimpressive it took repeated stories in the numismatic press to point collectors to "low mintage" numbers which has been the driving force for some of the figures you cite on eBay. Ah eBay, that most reliable of market pricing and prices paid resource...sigh! Mind you these prices have only been around since about March of 2012 when the sheep were told to start paying higher prices for something that was unwanted a short time ago. Now it's what, some 7 months later for the Army coin and the effect is still rather new to see how long term this coin fairs premium-wise. While it is the lowest of the modern commemorative coins, we need to reevaluate it's long term position to see how demand is sustained and premiums fare.</p><p><br /></p><p>For now we can see that you stated very recently that your attempts to<a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t208592/#post1472115" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t208592/#post1472115"> flip the BSA</a> coin netted you a "very small" return. At one point you even stated you <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t24699-35/#post813776" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t24699-35/#post813776">wouldn't buy the BSA coins</a>, but it seems you did after all. At least you took the advice of others and steered clear of the Braille coin when the numbers came out "<a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t24699-27/#post734678" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t24699-27/#post734678">That is way more than I <b>expected</b></a>".</p><p><br /></p><p>Regardless of the examples we may find to share from the recent past, with each new US Mint commemorative or special product, you pretty much show up waving banners of the coming potential. It almost doesn't matter which modern commemorative coin from the US Mint we go back to, most of them fail to be the winners many <i>hope</i> they will turn out to be, and most certainly aren't rarities. After the din of 'new' wears off of modern manufactured collector coins, the prices steadily drop off, which we know affects most US Mint modern commemorative coins, especially those with precious metals content. Far too many end up selling for just above spot.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, more important than proving your past calls that underperformed, we can stay on topic with this thread and point to your lack of reason for pricing trends in spot metals. Based on your past successes that I suggested don't work in your favor and your current lack of supportive reasons when I inquired about this, I don't think you have much ground to stand on in this tread. Hope... Maybe spot will drop, maybe it won't. Your <i>vibe</i> sounds like a 'crystal ball', and most we know are broken. Sorry to upset you with my doubts. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1474669, member: 19065"]Deep end? :eek: LOL! :rolleyes: Okay... So we can try to dig back through CT's past threads from the last few years to share an example if you'd like, but that won't be much fun for you when I start pulling them up to review. Maybe you have short term memory about things you don't wish to remember. It's easier to hope and look ahead. As I mentionedm eventually you'll get one right from the Mint, but that doesn't make for much of a successful track record, particularly when its on coins that sold very few units [I]initially[/I] due to lack of demand. The Army commems didn't reach anything near their full mintage limit authorized. The Army half sold 39,461 unc. coins and 68,349 Proof coins. That's about 15% of the coins combined authorized mintage of 750,000. Demand was so unimpressive it took repeated stories in the numismatic press to point collectors to "low mintage" numbers which has been the driving force for some of the figures you cite on eBay. Ah eBay, that most reliable of market pricing and prices paid resource...sigh! Mind you these prices have only been around since about March of 2012 when the sheep were told to start paying higher prices for something that was unwanted a short time ago. Now it's what, some 7 months later for the Army coin and the effect is still rather new to see how long term this coin fairs premium-wise. While it is the lowest of the modern commemorative coins, we need to reevaluate it's long term position to see how demand is sustained and premiums fare. For now we can see that you stated very recently that your attempts to[URL="http://www.cointalk.com/t208592/#post1472115"] flip the BSA[/URL] coin netted you a "very small" return. At one point you even stated you [URL="http://www.cointalk.com/t24699-35/#post813776"]wouldn't buy the BSA coins[/URL], but it seems you did after all. At least you took the advice of others and steered clear of the Braille coin when the numbers came out "[URL="http://www.cointalk.com/t24699-27/#post734678"]That is way more than I [B]expected[/B][/URL]". Regardless of the examples we may find to share from the recent past, with each new US Mint commemorative or special product, you pretty much show up waving banners of the coming potential. It almost doesn't matter which modern commemorative coin from the US Mint we go back to, most of them fail to be the winners many [I]hope[/I] they will turn out to be, and most certainly aren't rarities. After the din of 'new' wears off of modern manufactured collector coins, the prices steadily drop off, which we know affects most US Mint modern commemorative coins, especially those with precious metals content. Far too many end up selling for just above spot. However, more important than proving your past calls that underperformed, we can stay on topic with this thread and point to your lack of reason for pricing trends in spot metals. Based on your past successes that I suggested don't work in your favor and your current lack of supportive reasons when I inquired about this, I don't think you have much ground to stand on in this tread. Hope... Maybe spot will drop, maybe it won't. Your [I]vibe[/I] sounds like a 'crystal ball', and most we know are broken. Sorry to upset you with my doubts. :([/QUOTE]
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