American Silver Eagle Collector Coins (Mintage vs Market Value)

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  1. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    I don't know, some of these numbers are a little misleading. I know you're using the lowest sales after fees, but there's no way problem free examples can be bought for these prices. Take for example the 2011-s unc or 2013-w enhanced, both in spot free graded 70, which is all I buy. The 2011-s sells in the $300 range, not $100 and the 2013 sells in the $100 range, not $50.

    I've been buying a few EU70 2013-w's and contacting sellers to determine condition. I'm finding even in the $100 range, 90% of them have spots.

    So, it looks like sellers on eBay are mostly willing to sell only problem coins in this depressed market.

    Now that many of these coins have been out for awhile, maybe a better way to look at the values is, what would you have to pay for problem free examples.
     
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  3. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    As with all coins, the value will be dependent on the condition. The market value that I provide is based on the average price paid for a non-rated coin on ebay. If you have a perfect 70 rated by NGC, it will obviously bring more money. I'm not the red book but just a simple engineer basing value on the market. By the way, I'm not sure how the red book calculates value but it doesn't seem to be in "my real world".
     
  4. jonny oneal

    jonny oneal Member

    missing is the 2011 NMM (S). IT WAS MINTED IN SAN FRANCISCO BUT HAD NO S MINTMARK. THE MINTMARK IS ON THE GRADED VERSION BY PCSG, ETC. THIS IS NOT THE S INCLUDED IN THE FIVE COIN SET. IT WAS A SEPARATE ISSUE, ISSUED BEFORE ANY OTHER.
     
  5. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Ah, ha! The mysterious 's-less' "S" coin. Minted in San Fran but by no means can be distinguished from the 'generics' minted at West Point. The only way you could get that designation was by sending a monster box of these coins (from San Fran) to one of the grading services. What a load of malarkey. It's like taking high mintage moderns, submitting them to one of the grading services, receiving a '70 grade and then touting the axiom that they are rare........Yody Ho.
     
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  6. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I usually use a Dremel to get the same effect:)
     
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  7. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    Here is the updated information on the collector ASE's.

    Year Comment Mintage Current Original

    1986-S Proof 1,446,778 $49 $21
    1987-S Proof 904,732 $50 $23
    1988-S Proof 557,370 $50 $23
    1989-S Proof 617,694 $50 $23
    1990-S Proof 695,510 $50 $23
    1991-S Proof 511,924 $50 $23
    1992-S Proof 498,543 $50 $23
    1993-P Proof 405,913 $65 $23
    1994-P Proof 372,168 $120 $23
    1995-P Proof 407,822 $60 $23
    1995-W Only in 95 Gold Set 30,125 $4,000 (1)
    1996-P Proof 498,293 $55 $23
    1997-P Proof 440,315 $60 $23
    1998-P Proof 450,728 $55 $24
    1999-P Proof 549,330 $48 $24
    2000-P Proof 600,743 $47 $24
    2001-W Proof 746,398 $47 $24
    2002-W Proof 647,342 $45 $24
    2003-W Proof 747,831 $50 $24
    2004-W Proof 801,602 $45 $28
    2005-W Proof 816,663 $45 $28
    2006-W Proof 1,092,477 $45 $30
    2006-W Uncirculated 466,573 $30 $20
    2006-P Reverse Proof 248,875 $140 (2)
    2007-W Proof 821,759 $47 $30
    2007-W Uncirculated 621,333 $25 $26
    2008-W Proof 700,979 $44 $32
    2008-W Uncirculated 533,757 $38 $26
    2008-W UNC - Reverse of 2007 46,318 $550 $26
    2010-W Proof 849,861 $45 $46
    2011-W Proof 947,355 $42 $60
    2011-W Uncirculated 409,809 $40 $55
    2011-P Reverse Proof 99,882 $350 (3)
    2011-S Uncirculated 99,882 $75 (3)
    2012-W Proof (4) 877,731 $50 $60
    2012-W Uncirculated (5) 226,120 $35 $46
    2012-S Reverse Proof 224,935 $80 (6)
    2012-S Proof 281,792 $60 (6) & (7)
    2013-W Proof (8) 934,793 $50 $60
    2013-W Uncirculated (9) 222,091 $47 $46
    2013-W Reverse Proof 235,689 $80 (10)
    2013-W Enhanced Uncirculated 235,689 $55 (10)
    2014-W Proof (8) 944,504 $49 $48
    2014-W Uncirculated (12) 253,076 $40 $40
    2015-W Proof (11) 703,844 $47 $49
    2015-W Uncirculated (12) 222,218 $35 $50

    Notes.
    (1) The 1995-W Proof was only sold in the $999 gold set. Value by grade.
    (2) The 2006-P (RP) sold only in the 20th anniversary set @ $100/set.
    (3) The 2011-P (RP) and 2011-S (UNC) sold only in the 25th Anniversary set at $300/set.
    (4) The 2012-W Proof coin also sold in the Limited Addition Silver Proof set.
    (5) The 2012-W UNC coin also sold in the UNC Dollar Coin set.
    (6) The 2012-S (RP) and 2012-S (PF) were sold in 2 piece set at $150/set.
    (7) The 2012-S (PF) was also sold in the Making America History set.
    (8) The 2013-W & 2014-W (PF) also includes sales in Limited Edition and Congratulation sets.
    (9) The 2013-W UNC coin also sold in the Annual UNC Dollar set.
    (10) The 2013-W (RP) and (Enhanced UNC) were only sold in a two piece set.
    (11) The PF coin was also sold in the Congratulation set.
    (12) The UNC was also sold in the Annual UNC dollar set.
     
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  8. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    As 2016 nears an end, I thought it might be a good time to update the mintage versus market value of the collector ASE's.

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  9. onecenter

    onecenter Member

    I would love to have a 1995W proof. It was the "give away" in "US Mint speak" for the 1995 four-coin gold Eagle set with an issue price of $999. The only other special ASE not in my collection is the 2008-dated with reverse of 2007.

    Quite an impressive set of beautiful silver coins over the past 30 years in their plush purple, black and blue boxes!
     
  10. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I've just realized that they are selling the proof ASE in the 2016 Limited Edition Silver Set. As a note, they didn't make them in 2015. Here is the updated list with this mintage revision:

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  11. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I will print this out for future reference. That is some fine work, Phil, and thank you!
     
  12. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    They're also selling the 2016 proof in the Reagan C&C set.
     
  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Well-Known Member

    All this talk of ASEs and I went off just now and bought a the 2 Proof ASEs in: (a) Limited Edition Silver Proof S, and (b)
    Congratulations Set 2016 as my FINAL 2016 purchase congratulations. This adds to my already UNC ASE 30th.

    what do the RED numbers represent?
     
  14. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn

    has gone down in value since the last posted value.
     
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  15. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I have many tabs on my coin collection spreadsheet. The red suggests a link to a price on another tab. As it is a calculation field, it reminds me not to overwrite it.
     
  16. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    Thanks for this one. I guessed I missed it. I've updated the spreadsheet to reflect the additional sales of the 2016 ASE proof. Jeez; the US mint is making it more difficult each year to track sales of these guys!

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  17. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    As we approach the end of 2017, here is the latest update to the collector ASE's.

    Year Comment Mintage Current Original

    1986-S Proof 1,446,778 $47 $21
    1987-S Proof 904,732 $50 $23
    1988-S Proof 557,370 $50 $23
    1989-S Proof 617,694 $43 $23
    1990-S Proof 695,510 $45 $23
    1991-S Proof 511,924 $50 $23
    1992-S Proof 498,543 $50 $23
    1993-P Proof 405,913 $65 $23
    1994-P Proof 372,168 $120 $23
    1995-P Proof 407,822 $60 $23
    1995-W Only in 95 Gold Set 30,125 $4,000 (1)
    1996-P Proof 498,293 $55 $23
    1997-P Proof 440,315 $60 $23
    1998-P Proof 450,728 $55 $24
    1999-P Proof 549,330 $48 $24
    2000-P Proof 600,743 $47 $24
    2001-W Proof 746,398 $47 $24
    2002-W Proof 647,342 $45 $24
    2003-W Proof 747,831 $50 $24
    2004-W Proof 801,602 $45 $28
    2005-W Proof 816,663 $45 $28
    2006-W Proof 1,092,477 $43 $30
    2006-W Uncirculated 466,573 $30 $20
    2006-P Reverse Proof 248,875 $140 (2)
    2007-W Proof 821,759 $40 $30
    2007-W Uncirculated 621,333 $25 $26
    2008-W Proof 700,979 $40 $32
    2008-W Uncirculated 533,757 $38 $26
    2008-W UNC - Reverse of 2007 46,318 $550 $26
    2010-W Proof 849,861 $40 $46
    2011-W Proof 947,355 $40 $60
    2011-W Uncirculated 409,809 $40 $55
    2011-P Reverse Proof 99,882 $350 (3)
    2011-S Uncirculated 99,882 $75 (3)
    2012-W Proof (4) 877,731 $45 $60
    2012-W Uncirculated (5) 226,120 $35 $46
    2012-S Reverse Proof 224,935 $80 (6)
    2012-S Proof 281,792 $60 (6) & (7)
    2013-W Proof (8) 934,812 $53 $60
    2013-W Uncirculated (9) 222,091 $35 $46
    2013-W Reverse Proof 235,689 $80 (10)
    2013-W Enhanced Uncirculated 235,689 $55 (10)
    2014-W Proof (8) 944,757 $40 $48
    2014-W Uncirculated (12) 253,169 $40 $40
    2015-W Proof (11) 707,518 $45 $49
    2015-W Uncirculated (12) 222,879 $40 $50
    2016-W Proof (13) 683,265 $50 $54
    2016-W Uncirculated (12) 235,760 $47 $45
    2017-W Proof 363,630 $51 $54
    2017-W Uncirculated 137,842 $45 $45
    2017-S Proof (14) 123,817 $80 (14)

    Notes.
    (1) The 1995-W Proof was only sold in the $999 gold set. Value by grade.
    (2) The 2006-P (RP) sold only in the 20th anniversary set @ $100/set.
    (3) The 2011-P (RP) and 2011-S (UNC) sold only in the 25th Anniversary set at $300/set.
    (4) The 2012-W Proof coin also sold in the Limited Addition Silver Proof set.
    (5) The 2012-W UNC coin also sold in the UNC Dollar Coin set.
    (6) The 2012-S (RP) and 2012-S (PF) were sold in 2 piece set at $150/set.
    (7) The 2012-S (PF) was also sold in the Making America History set.
    (8) The PF coin was also sold in Limited Edition and Congratulation sets.
    (9) The 2013-W UNC coin also sold in the Annual UNC Dollar set.
    (10) The 2013-W (RP) and (Enhanced UNC) were only sold in a two piece set.
    (11) The PF coin was also sold in the Congratulation set. No Limited Edition in 2015.
    (12) The UNC was also sold in the Annual UNC dollar set.
    (13) Also sold in Limited Edition, Congratulation, and Reagan C&C sets.
    (14) Sold with the Congratulation Set and the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set.

    Still Selling
    2016-W Proof Coin
    2016-W UNC Coin
    2016 Annual UNC Dollar Set
    2016 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set.
    2016 Coin & Chronicle Set - Ronald Reagan
    2017-W Proof Coin
    2017-W UNC Coin
     
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