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<p>[QUOTE="Chris McDaniel, post: 2599997, member: 84053"]Thanks, Earnie 11. Have thought about Calders and here's what I think. First of all, it was near the end of the series, '83, and Calder was the 3rd lowest reported mintage. (84'S were the lowest). Note from the mintage figures the Mint was making fewer and fewer as they went along. It was clear this series was not being collected, just bought and sold as bullion by dealers working the spread. Second, no one had really ever heard of Calder....except artists. I never had, not like Louie Armstrong or Mark Twain. So, he didn't have the fame attached to his coin. Third, the image was not so attractive...OK, ugly.....at least to me. Calder looks like a drunk. And last, gold was losing value and also interest by 1984 after the big runup that topped in 1981. No one was really collecting gold in 1984, altho they were buying K-rands hand over fist as bullion. Put it all together and the Calder's went unloved.</p><p><br /></p><p>Heller <a href="http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969" rel="nofollow">http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969</a><a href="http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969" rel="nofollow">http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969</a> reports the Calders as the most rare of those remaining. No way to prove that of course, but.....APMEX may be onto some of this info, since APMEX was recently charging $795 for that half ounce gold piece (late 2016) while selling the others at 14 bucks over melt. And they were selling! APMEX doesn't make it easy to find these, but the one or two they had were always quickly sold. Here's that link: </p><p><a href="http://www.apmex.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.apmex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apmex.com</a>search?q=U.S.%20Mint%201%20oz%20Gold%20Commemorative%20Arts%20Medal%20(Random)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>For years these things were unknown. Red Book didn't even include them I think until 2011. And then skipped them a year or two before adding them to the book again. I've been to coin shows, and 100% of the dealers there have never heard of them. I have to show them the Red Book page. And I can repeat that experience today. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, I know Marion Anderson is headed for one of the circulating Bills, along with Harriet Tubman <span style="color: #ff0000">EDITED: political statements not allowed by rules. There is an alternate site called Partisanlines.com where political, religious, and world events can be discussed.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>So, once Anderson pops up on a Five or a Ten, what do you think will happen to this series when it's re-discovered?</p><p>Somebody is collecting these besides me. I monitor APMEX for these and find one or two for sale, and then they are gone in a couple of days. And the Calder's carry a $200 premium lately at Apmex.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Chris McDaniel, post: 2599997, member: 84053"]Thanks, Earnie 11. Have thought about Calders and here's what I think. First of all, it was near the end of the series, '83, and Calder was the 3rd lowest reported mintage. (84'S were the lowest). Note from the mintage figures the Mint was making fewer and fewer as they went along. It was clear this series was not being collected, just bought and sold as bullion by dealers working the spread. Second, no one had really ever heard of Calder....except artists. I never had, not like Louie Armstrong or Mark Twain. So, he didn't have the fame attached to his coin. Third, the image was not so attractive...OK, ugly.....at least to me. Calder looks like a drunk. And last, gold was losing value and also interest by 1984 after the big runup that topped in 1981. No one was really collecting gold in 1984, altho they were buying K-rands hand over fist as bullion. Put it all together and the Calder's went unloved. Heller [url]http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969[/url][url]http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ArticleId=24969[/url] reports the Calders as the most rare of those remaining. No way to prove that of course, but.....APMEX may be onto some of this info, since APMEX was recently charging $795 for that half ounce gold piece (late 2016) while selling the others at 14 bucks over melt. And they were selling! APMEX doesn't make it easy to find these, but the one or two they had were always quickly sold. Here's that link: [url]http://www.apmex.com[/url]search?q=U.S.%20Mint%201%20oz%20Gold%20Commemorative%20Arts%20Medal%20(Random) For years these things were unknown. Red Book didn't even include them I think until 2011. And then skipped them a year or two before adding them to the book again. I've been to coin shows, and 100% of the dealers there have never heard of them. I have to show them the Red Book page. And I can repeat that experience today. Now, I know Marion Anderson is headed for one of the circulating Bills, along with Harriet Tubman [COLOR=#ff0000]EDITED: political statements not allowed by rules. There is an alternate site called Partisanlines.com where political, religious, and world events can be discussed.[/COLOR] So, once Anderson pops up on a Five or a Ten, what do you think will happen to this series when it's re-discovered? Somebody is collecting these besides me. I monitor APMEX for these and find one or two for sale, and then they are gone in a couple of days. And the Calder's carry a $200 premium lately at Apmex.[/QUOTE]
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