Alexandrian drachms Vespasian

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  1. Pellinore

    Pellinore Supporter! Supporter

    Here are two rough-and-tumble drachms of the emperor Vespasian minted in Alexandria. You know, large unwieldy yellowish bronze coins rounded on one side and sharp-rimmed at the other.

    They are both variants of Emmett 208. I can't read any dates on them. The emperor is on the flat side, Nike (Victory) on the convex side. The other drachms I know have the emperor on the convex side.
    Both coins were sloppily made, but I doubt if they have been used and worn a lot.

    I await your comments! Beautiful they aren't! But interesting.

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    AE drachm Vespasian, Alexandria. Left. Bust of Nike with little wings on her shoulders. r. Right. Laureated head of Vespasian r. 35 mm, 21.85 gr. Emmett 208.

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    AE drachm Vespasian, Alexandria. Obv. Bust of Nike r. Rev. Head of Vespasian r. 37 x 35 mm, 20.69 gr. Emmett 208.
     
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  3. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Very cool! I find beauty in some ugly things lol eye of the beholder and all that.

    I don't have a Vespasian, but here's one of his boys (and it has the same strike side for the obv/rev as yours):
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    Domitian, Ruled 81-96 AD
    AE Diobol, Egypt, Alexandria
    Struck 88/89 AD

    Obverse: AYTOK KAIΣAP Δ•MITIANOE ΣEB ΓEPM, laureate head right.
    Reverse: Draped bust of Alexandria right in elephant headdress, date ΕΤΟVΣ ΟΓΔΟΟV as legend, RY 8. (Original collector’s envelope is misattributed.)
    References: Emmett 278 (reverse unlisted for this year)
    Size: 23mm, 7.7g
    Ex: The Reverend Willis McGill Collection (McGill was an American missionary stationed in Egypt, who started collecting there during World War I)
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus Supporter

    Interesting indeed. Very nice pickups.

    I have a Dattari plate coin of Vespasian. It is a diabol. It is also not a beautiful coin but I love it anyway.

    Egypt, Alexandria. Dattari. Vespasian, 69-79 Diobol circa 70-71 (year 3), Æ
    ( 26.5mm., 9.15g.)
    Obv: Laureate head r.
    Rev. Bust of Isis r.; in front, LΓ. RPC 2430 (this coin cited). Dattari-Savio Pl. 14, 382 (this coin).
    Brown tone. Very Fine.
    From the Dattari collection.
    Naville Numismatics Auction #30, Lot 283, April 02, 2017.
    Coin depicted in the Wildwinds.com database.

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  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Tribunicia Potestas

    Vespasian. Tet of Alexandria, 25 mm 12.2 grams. Reverse: Nike. On this one you can tell there is some silver in the coin.

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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Yes, 'rough and tumble' ... but with a lot of appeal. I wish I could precisely attribute them for you.
     
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  7. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

  8. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    This reverse type was struck RY 1-3, and only RY 2 & 3 used the AVTOK KAIΣ Σ[EB AO VEΣΠAΣIANOΥ] obverse legend, so can be narrowed down to 69/70 or 70/71 AD.
     
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  9. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    I think the first one looks pretty good, and the second isn’t so bad either.
     
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  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I have no Vespasians and no Flavian drachms but will show three Domitian minors.
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  11. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Supporter! Supporter

    Hadrian Ae Drachm Rv. Tyche stg l. Milne 1365 Emmett 1062 (17) 132-133 A.D. 28.05 grms 33 mm alexhadd3.jpg
     
  12. Pellinore

    Pellinore Supporter! Supporter

    Great @Terence! I have the same type, but hesitated about the identity of the goddess. Now I see it is the same, even the same date, but much more battered than yours.
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