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<p>[QUOTE="Owle, post: 1267695, member: 22004"]You could be taxed for self-employment business if they want to prove their case, I have not known of a case where either the state or federal tax people have done this. The difference between self-employment income and investment or hobby income is significant. Once upon a time they probably made cases out of this, but less and less these days. I have heard of a couple dealers being audited, but this too is infrequent. I once spoke to JJ Van Grover about his having been audited by the NYC tax department and he was accurate down to the farthing he said. </p><p><br /></p><p>Tax non-compliance is fairly substantial these days, and of course, there are huge ranges of violations, from a few hundred here and there to six and seven figures. If people had really accurate auditors to get all their deductions, etc., the tax quickly gets minimized. It is more the value of seeing the numbers and the gross and net profits that gives those buying and selling a good idea of whether it is profitable or not. </p><p><br /></p><p>Theoretically book-keeping and accounting are supposed to be done a certain way. Accountants know that if their customers pay more than they expect to, they may lose customers to other CPAs with different methods. Accountants told me how customers had eluded taxes with separate bank accounts, cashing checks at the payee's bank, etc.. They know all the tricks, and unfortunately, an honest filer may have to work to get the accountant to do it honestly. That has been my experience.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Owle, post: 1267695, member: 22004"]You could be taxed for self-employment business if they want to prove their case, I have not known of a case where either the state or federal tax people have done this. The difference between self-employment income and investment or hobby income is significant. Once upon a time they probably made cases out of this, but less and less these days. I have heard of a couple dealers being audited, but this too is infrequent. I once spoke to JJ Van Grover about his having been audited by the NYC tax department and he was accurate down to the farthing he said. Tax non-compliance is fairly substantial these days, and of course, there are huge ranges of violations, from a few hundred here and there to six and seven figures. If people had really accurate auditors to get all their deductions, etc., the tax quickly gets minimized. It is more the value of seeing the numbers and the gross and net profits that gives those buying and selling a good idea of whether it is profitable or not. Theoretically book-keeping and accounting are supposed to be done a certain way. Accountants know that if their customers pay more than they expect to, they may lose customers to other CPAs with different methods. Accountants told me how customers had eluded taxes with separate bank accounts, cashing checks at the payee's bank, etc.. They know all the tricks, and unfortunately, an honest filer may have to work to get the accountant to do it honestly. That has been my experience.[/QUOTE]
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