A Pareidolia nightmare

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  1. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    For those that don't know the term Pareidolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
    This coin has some zinc rot that makes it look like there are some extra letters and numbers on it but in fact there is not it just happens to be in a shape that makes your mind believe that it is. For example the top part of the coin between the st on trust on the rim it appears there is a u and make some beginners think that some how the u in trust was doubled or misplaced but in reality the coin just took a hit that pushed the metal down and made the appearance of a u. From left to right on the bust of Lincoln the first looks like a d the middle looks like a d and the mark on the right either looks like the number 8 or the letter s which might lead someone to believe that somehow the 8 was misplaced or somehow a San Francisco mint mark was added but again it is your mind playing tricks on you and in fact this is just zinc rot. I am not the best at explaining things but I thought I would put this on here with links and definitions to help some people out. The best reference for learning about errors that I have found is http://www.error-ref.com/. Ok im done I just thought I'd share this ugly coin to show an example of Pareidolia. If others care to chime in on something I forgot or have better links please share. 841.jpg 842.jpg 843.jpg 844.jpg
     
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  3. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Or if anyone wants to share a example that they have feel free to share.
     
  4. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    That is very good information for many of our newbie posters who believe they see the "next great find" on their severely damaged coins.

    Let's just hope they read it, understand it, and, most importantly, believe it.

    Now let me throw a monkey wrench into this discussion :
    Is it possible for a mint employee to put a very small letter or number, that doesn't belong there, on a coin?
    I would say....Yes!
    Is it probable?
    I would say...No!

    Here's why I say Yes to such a possibility.

    As a former government employee, I used to do a very similar thing, as a draftsman for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

    I drew what were known as Jetty Condition Surveys on 24 x 36 Mylar sheets, then these sheets were reduced in size, photographed and printed, and then mounted in books. The books were used to provide information on the condition of the beaches in relation to the stone jetties.

    What I did was this : Inside all of the letter O's on the large sheets, I would draw a Peace Sign. By the time the sheets were reduced in size, you couldn't see these without a magnifying glass or loupe.

    The miniature Peace Signs did not affect the quality of the information provided in any way. They were simply my special, secret mark.

    So, I repeat :
    Is it possible for a mint employee to put a very small letter or number, that doesn't belong there, on a coin?
    I would say....Yes!
    But is it probable?
    I would say....No !
     
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  5. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    The only small letter a mint employee could add is a mint mark which is considered a miss placed mint mark http://www.error-ref.com/misplaced-mintmark/ as far as adding a number I'm pretty sure it would have to be in the working die and I don't think that's possible but hey to some controversy there have been plenty of "questionable" error's out there so why not some questionable varieties lol.
     
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  6. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

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  7. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's sort of a rhetorical question that goes along with the idea that : "Anything is Possible".
     
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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    So you're the culprit! Now we know who to blame for all these mystery letters, numbers and images! :wacky:
     
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  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I remember reading something about a mint worker that was marking dies in some way. I forgot the details.
     
  10. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Well.... When you consider we have nails with a dime struck on them, I would say yes perhaps there may be some Tomfoolery that goes on at the US Mint upon occasion.
     
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  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    It's Hook-Pareidolia-man's fault.
     
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  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Is that a 5 on Lincoln's cheek I see? LOL
     
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  15. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    Be careful what you admit to - it's never too late for Army CID agents to knock on your door and interrogate you about defacing official documents :cool:
     
  16. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Is 40 years too late?
     
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  17. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    edited/duplicate post
     
  18. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    If you turn me in I'm going to start calling you " Juris Prudence " !! lolol
     
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  19. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    Not to worry - in my past life, I did much worse ;)

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  20. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    I don't know it could be. That's one of the many joys of pareidolia lol.
     
  21. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Hey, now that you mention it, I see a 5, right there between his nose and his chin, up against his lips. It's a big 1 , 2 !

    No paradigitallis here.
     
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