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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1168165, member: 26030"]I know there is a big split on this board: Half think $50 silver is a bubble and will soon pop -- the other half think $50 silver is here to stay and silver is ultimately heading higher.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: red"><b>I think the top 3 arguments I've heard for a Bubble are:</b></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: red"> 1. Last time silver hit $50 in 1980 it was a bubble, just look what happened after that.</span> <span style="color: red"></span></p><p><span style="color: red"> 2. Silver has tripled from $16 to $48 in 6 months, that's a "too far, too fast" climb.</span></p><p><span style="color: red"> 3. We all got used to Silver between $4 and $8, it sat there for 20 years between 1981 and 2001, so that must be the "normal, fair market" price.</span></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b><span style="color: seagreen">I think the top 3 arguments I've heard for the New Norm are:</span></b><span style="color: seagreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: seagreen"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: seagreen"> 1. Too Low Interest Rates and Rampant Money Printing have finally caught up with us (and Bernanke wants the dollar to go lower).</span> <span style="color: seagreen"></span></p><p><span style="color: seagreen"> 2. People and Governments are diversifying away from the Dollar and buying gold and silver.</span></p><p><span style="color: seagreen"> 3. The inflation adjusted 1980 price for silver is really between $128 and $328 (depending on how you measure inflation) an ounce, so there is a lot of room to run</span>.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]121488.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I've started trying to analyze the situation to determine how I should position myself in my retirement investments. I am a firm believer in higher silver prices in the future (which I think will push over $100 an ounce in a few years) -- but I also think silver has run too far, too fast in the short term and needs a good pullback to build a better base for it's next run. I still think a pull back to $35 would be very healthy (ok so maybe we can just get down to $40 and not $35 -- that would still be healthy).</p><p><br /></p><p>I subscribe to a metals newsletter and they think silver is getting ready to top out around $50 -- but strangely they are very bullish on gold. This is a bit of a contradiction as silver and gold do have a clear correlation to each other and from what I've seen (in the historical charts) it's hard for one to have a big correction without the other also correcting. </p><p><br /></p><p>Another negative for a continued silver run is how the silver mining stocks have been stuck in the mud for the past 4 months (as silver metal has exploded higher). The stock market is a discounting mechanism, and I think this dynamic says people that invest in stocks think silver will be much lower in 6 months. Whether or not this is bullish or bearish, it's not clear -- but it certainly says stock traders don't believe the recent silver and gold rally is stable.</p><p><br /></p><p>One positive for a continued silver run is I hear a lot of people getting short silver. I even heard of a double short silver ETF trading under ticker symbol <b>ZSL</b> that had huge volume lately. This actually is sort of bullish for silver prices, as when there are a lot of people short, they can get "squeezed" and have to cover their positions. This can cause silver prices to rise.</p><p><br /></p><p>From a technical analysis perspective, we could be at a double top (perhaps triple top) around $50 --- however typical tops have very fast, near explosive downward moves after reaching the top. So if we just sort of hang out here around $48 to $49 for a few weeks, I think that suggests silver is <u>not</u> going to drop precipitously. So the longer we hang out at these prices, I think the chances of a big correction are reduced. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do think this is a very "unloved" rally in silver and gold. Most people I know don't own any silver or gold. Even the people long the metals have a bit of a sense of disbelief at these prices and almost appear quick to sell and get out. (Just look at all the people on this board that sold their silver as it climbed above $24, $28, $32, $36, $40. Even I dumped out of silver in my retirement accounts when it got close to $50) Certainly that part of it would suggest we are not at a MAJOR top. Since major tops happen when EVERYBODY is in and long and very bullish -- not when everybody is skittish and in a state of disbelief.</p><p><br /></p><p>So all in all, I feel confused by several conflicting dynamics -- I do think silver will go higher later this year (probably in the Sept to Nov time frame) -- but we are OVERDUE for a good correction in silver down to $40 at least (and $35 would make me feel happy). So between $35 and $40 -- I would go long silver again in my retirement accounts -- until then just playing a waiting game.</p><p><br /></p><p>However if silver hangs out here for a while then starts moving higher and breaks above the 1980 high of $50.36 (i think) ... all bets are off and it looks like the bull run continues.</p><p><br /></p><p>I sold a lot of my "paper" long silver positions in my retirement accounts with silver prices around $49.50 -- However the hoard of gold and silver coins I bought, I bought for long term, and I'm not selling (even if silver drops by $25). </p><p><br /></p><p>These sure are interesting times![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1168165, member: 26030"]I know there is a big split on this board: Half think $50 silver is a bubble and will soon pop -- the other half think $50 silver is here to stay and silver is ultimately heading higher. [COLOR=red][B]I think the top 3 arguments I've heard for a Bubble are:[/B] 1. Last time silver hit $50 in 1980 it was a bubble, just look what happened after that.[/COLOR] [COLOR=red] 2. Silver has tripled from $16 to $48 in 6 months, that's a "too far, too fast" climb. 3. We all got used to Silver between $4 and $8, it sat there for 20 years between 1981 and 2001, so that must be the "normal, fair market" price.[/COLOR] [B] [COLOR=seagreen]I think the top 3 arguments I've heard for the New Norm are:[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=seagreen] 1. Too Low Interest Rates and Rampant Money Printing have finally caught up with us (and Bernanke wants the dollar to go lower).[/COLOR] [COLOR=seagreen] 2. People and Governments are diversifying away from the Dollar and buying gold and silver. 3. The inflation adjusted 1980 price for silver is really between $128 and $328 (depending on how you measure inflation) an ounce, so there is a lot of room to run[/COLOR]. [ATTACH]121488.vB[/ATTACH] I've started trying to analyze the situation to determine how I should position myself in my retirement investments. I am a firm believer in higher silver prices in the future (which I think will push over $100 an ounce in a few years) -- but I also think silver has run too far, too fast in the short term and needs a good pullback to build a better base for it's next run. I still think a pull back to $35 would be very healthy (ok so maybe we can just get down to $40 and not $35 -- that would still be healthy). I subscribe to a metals newsletter and they think silver is getting ready to top out around $50 -- but strangely they are very bullish on gold. This is a bit of a contradiction as silver and gold do have a clear correlation to each other and from what I've seen (in the historical charts) it's hard for one to have a big correction without the other also correcting. Another negative for a continued silver run is how the silver mining stocks have been stuck in the mud for the past 4 months (as silver metal has exploded higher). The stock market is a discounting mechanism, and I think this dynamic says people that invest in stocks think silver will be much lower in 6 months. Whether or not this is bullish or bearish, it's not clear -- but it certainly says stock traders don't believe the recent silver and gold rally is stable. One positive for a continued silver run is I hear a lot of people getting short silver. I even heard of a double short silver ETF trading under ticker symbol [B]ZSL[/B] that had huge volume lately. This actually is sort of bullish for silver prices, as when there are a lot of people short, they can get "squeezed" and have to cover their positions. This can cause silver prices to rise. From a technical analysis perspective, we could be at a double top (perhaps triple top) around $50 --- however typical tops have very fast, near explosive downward moves after reaching the top. So if we just sort of hang out here around $48 to $49 for a few weeks, I think that suggests silver is [U]not[/U] going to drop precipitously. So the longer we hang out at these prices, I think the chances of a big correction are reduced. I do think this is a very "unloved" rally in silver and gold. Most people I know don't own any silver or gold. Even the people long the metals have a bit of a sense of disbelief at these prices and almost appear quick to sell and get out. (Just look at all the people on this board that sold their silver as it climbed above $24, $28, $32, $36, $40. Even I dumped out of silver in my retirement accounts when it got close to $50) Certainly that part of it would suggest we are not at a MAJOR top. Since major tops happen when EVERYBODY is in and long and very bullish -- not when everybody is skittish and in a state of disbelief. So all in all, I feel confused by several conflicting dynamics -- I do think silver will go higher later this year (probably in the Sept to Nov time frame) -- but we are OVERDUE for a good correction in silver down to $40 at least (and $35 would make me feel happy). So between $35 and $40 -- I would go long silver again in my retirement accounts -- until then just playing a waiting game. However if silver hangs out here for a while then starts moving higher and breaks above the 1980 high of $50.36 (i think) ... all bets are off and it looks like the bull run continues. I sold a lot of my "paper" long silver positions in my retirement accounts with silver prices around $49.50 -- However the hoard of gold and silver coins I bought, I bought for long term, and I'm not selling (even if silver drops by $25). These sure are interesting times![/QUOTE]
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