40% Silver Shouldn't have a discount

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Bman33, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I heard from a source that Silver refinery guys buy at melt for 40% from dealers. Does anyone have any insight on this? Is the whole it has to be discounted because of all the copper a scam?
     
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  3. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    You should ask your source.
     
  4. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    My source told me when we were both bidding on 40% coins that started off dirt cheap. A dealer out bid us.
     
  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Random sources should not be taken seriously. What a refinery will pay someone has a 100 different variables. There's other reasons besides melt value for why that dealer may have won too
     
  6. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I agree, one source is not exactly the truth but my source said the dealer who won the auction for 40% regularly regularly gives the refinery guy $1,000 face of 40%. That's why he was getting full melt. I know the dealer too, that's who I sell my 40 to!
     
  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That's possible that he has a special deal just for him due to the amount of business he gives them. That would certainly be one of the variables in their price paid.
     
  8. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Could be enough copper to pay for the difference in refining costs between 40% and 90%?
     
  9. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, also, if the refinery sits on 40% for one big batch then I see them getting ahead of the curve for all the "discounted because of all the other stuff" silver.
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    37 troy pounds of copper in 2000 40% halves at 3.11 = $115 in copper.
     
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  11. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    What's this? Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts!
     
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  12. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    How much does the smelter pay for the silver? 93%? If it's 7%
    then they are making $100 on the copper and another $370 on the silver.
     
  13. abuckmaster147

    abuckmaster147 Well-Known Member

    IDK I checked out a lot of refineries back 6 7 years ago because I had a bunch of dif ct gold jewelry and such cheapest I found was $140 to refine it for me. The guy did not think it would be worth it but I thought it was ok. A bunch of places said that they only dealt with jewelers and pawn shops in bulk for refining.
     
  14. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    91% the dealer pays me.
     
  15. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    IDK what the smelter pays the dealer. 93-94-95?
     
  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    My favorite 40

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  17. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Not even a 211 come on
     
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  18. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    100%
     
  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    This question has been asked a thousand times so i guess one more time
    Wont hurt....LOL
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    The smelter can't pay the dealer 100%.
    There's no profit in that. They aren't doing all the work of smelting to break even. If the price of silver drops they are losing money.
    They have to pay 95 or whatever the number is to make a profit.
     
  21. Jason.A

    Jason.A Active Member

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