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<p>[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1296598, member: 29643"]You can't transact precious metals without the physical commodity necessary to fulfill the demand. That was the entire point of HR 4173.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you're going to say 200 ounces satisfied 300 ounces of consumption demand, you're also saying that 0 ounces satisfied 100 ounces of selling demand. The net balance is still 200 ounces/shares, regardless of how you personally choose to look at it.</p><p><br /></p><p>This isn't an issue of viewpoint. This is the ledger breakdown:</p><p><br /></p><p>Initial Transaction:</p><p>Debit SLV 200 ounces</p><p>Credit Person A 100 ounces</p><p>Credit Person B 100 ounces</p><p><br /></p><p>Margin Lending Transaction:</p><p>Debit Person B 100 ounces</p><p>Credit Person C 100 ounces</p><p>Credit Person B cash equivalent loan of 100 ounces</p><p>Debit Person C cash equivalent loan against 100 ounces</p><p><br /></p><p>Short Transaction:</p><p>Debit Person C 100 ounces</p><p>Credit Person D 100 ounces</p><p><br /></p><p>Net Transaction:</p><p><br /></p><p>Debit SLV 200 ounces</p><p>Credit Person A 100 ounces</p><p>Credit Person B Margin loan equivalency of 100 ounces</p><p>Debit Person C Margin loan equivalency of 100 ounces</p><p>Credit Person D 100 ounces</p><p><br /></p><p>It's not that 200 ounces supplied 300 ounces of demand. I don't know how else to explain this. It doesn't matter if Person B interprets their holding as 100 ounces or not, the reality is that they don't hold 100 ounces. They hold terms to receive 100 ounces once they repay their loan. If no one loans the 100 shares, the short never can occur. It's really that simple. You can respond, but at this point, I'm dropping the issue. I don't know of any other ways that I can explain this to be clear. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NorthKorea, post: 1296598, member: 29643"]You can't transact precious metals without the physical commodity necessary to fulfill the demand. That was the entire point of HR 4173. If you're going to say 200 ounces satisfied 300 ounces of consumption demand, you're also saying that 0 ounces satisfied 100 ounces of selling demand. The net balance is still 200 ounces/shares, regardless of how you personally choose to look at it. This isn't an issue of viewpoint. This is the ledger breakdown: Initial Transaction: Debit SLV 200 ounces Credit Person A 100 ounces Credit Person B 100 ounces Margin Lending Transaction: Debit Person B 100 ounces Credit Person C 100 ounces Credit Person B cash equivalent loan of 100 ounces Debit Person C cash equivalent loan against 100 ounces Short Transaction: Debit Person C 100 ounces Credit Person D 100 ounces Net Transaction: Debit SLV 200 ounces Credit Person A 100 ounces Credit Person B Margin loan equivalency of 100 ounces Debit Person C Margin loan equivalency of 100 ounces Credit Person D 100 ounces It's not that 200 ounces supplied 300 ounces of demand. I don't know how else to explain this. It doesn't matter if Person B interprets their holding as 100 ounces or not, the reality is that they don't hold 100 ounces. They hold terms to receive 100 ounces once they repay their loan. If no one loans the 100 shares, the short never can occur. It's really that simple. You can respond, but at this point, I'm dropping the issue. I don't know of any other ways that I can explain this to be clear. :D[/QUOTE]
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