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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;fatima, post: 1294775, member: 22143&quot;]Indeed.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think many did see the failures coming.&nbsp; Not because they were not paying attention as suggested above, but rather because the executives were committing illegal activities and lying to investors.&nbsp; They were later jailed for it. Normally illegal activities are hidden by the criminals who commit them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I know of a very large fortune 20 company that was building an electronic trading floor for Enron including hiring and training the employees that were to run it.&nbsp; The floor had to be closed just before it was opened because of Enron&#039;s failure. The employees had to be fired, the equipment on the floor scrapped, and the new construction abandoned.&nbsp;&nbsp; They certainly didn&#039;t see it coming and they usually do the necessary due diligence on these deals this large.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>In a similar manner we now have an entire stock market being propped up by constant hopium and enormous debt creation where the liability for it a is being shifted to the taxpayers and savers.&nbsp; &nbsp; This is why metals will continue to rise.&nbsp; Like you, I would not pin a specific number on it on a certain date, but IMO they will continue to outperform almost anything else.&nbsp;&nbsp; And they have the benefit of no third party risk.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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