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<p>[QUOTE="InfleXion, post: 1294281, member: 29012"]I agree with you in most cases, but let me get into the details of what I meant. The key part of my distinction was that of a physical market as opposed to a paper market. </p><p><br /></p><p>As per Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday</a></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>So with 1980 PMs, that bubble was caused by leverage external to the physical market and was only popped by rule changes on the COMEX. </p><p><br /></p><p>My point with precious metals is that the supply is finite. So the characteristics of a bubble cannot be met, since it would require either artificially decreasing the supply or artificially increasing demand. It's not artificial if someone isn't buying on margin. Demand is a global net result and thus not able to be impacted except in cases such as silver where the total market ($30 billion) can be bought in it's entirety by the large players, which means that the only reason it is capable of getting into a bubble is because it's currently in an anti-bubble. Gold's function is as a measurement of currency value so I would argue that it cannot get into a bubble, since it's just an inverse reflection of currency. </p><p><br /></p><p>With tulip bulbs you can always plant more, or maybe there's a bad crop one year and supply goes down, but precious metals have a relatively fixed and immovable level of production. They're produced by stars and will eventually run out on a long enough timeline unlike plants, houses, and especially paper IOU's. Farmland is the one thing you mentioned that shares this characteristic, but since it's far more difficult to exchange (illiquid) than precious metals the supply/demand dynamic has a lag effect and much higher propensity for bottlenecks. So I don't think that's an ideal comparison since the dynamics are very different.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="InfleXion, post: 1294281, member: 29012"]I agree with you in most cases, but let me get into the details of what I meant. The key part of my distinction was that of a physical market as opposed to a paper market. As per Wikipedia: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday[/url] So with 1980 PMs, that bubble was caused by leverage external to the physical market and was only popped by rule changes on the COMEX. My point with precious metals is that the supply is finite. So the characteristics of a bubble cannot be met, since it would require either artificially decreasing the supply or artificially increasing demand. It's not artificial if someone isn't buying on margin. Demand is a global net result and thus not able to be impacted except in cases such as silver where the total market ($30 billion) can be bought in it's entirety by the large players, which means that the only reason it is capable of getting into a bubble is because it's currently in an anti-bubble. Gold's function is as a measurement of currency value so I would argue that it cannot get into a bubble, since it's just an inverse reflection of currency. With tulip bulbs you can always plant more, or maybe there's a bad crop one year and supply goes down, but precious metals have a relatively fixed and immovable level of production. They're produced by stars and will eventually run out on a long enough timeline unlike plants, houses, and especially paper IOU's. Farmland is the one thing you mentioned that shares this characteristic, but since it's far more difficult to exchange (illiquid) than precious metals the supply/demand dynamic has a lag effect and much higher propensity for bottlenecks. So I don't think that's an ideal comparison since the dynamics are very different.[/QUOTE]
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