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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 25291150, member: 73489"]What you see and hear about "Wall Street" and banks is usually by folks with an axe to grind and also a lack of financial acumen.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Fact: there was no "Wall Street bank" bailout in 2008-09. </b> But the media continues to lie about it because they all regurgitate the same half-assed sources. The only banks "bailed out" were small community banks plus some non-bank companies which were "bailed out" to make the UNIONS whole (i.e, UAW).</p><p><br /></p><p>JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs each didn't WANT any TARP $$$. They were forced to take it at gunpoint. They paid it back each within 9 months. Citigroup may or may not have made it (I think they would have) -- <b><span style="color: #ff0000">but they got diluted to hell and the stock will need another 30 years to break-even if you owned it in 2007.</span></b></p><p><br /></p><p>Meanwhile....the Teamsters CSPF pension ponzi scheme got $36,000,000,000 from the Covid stimulus. Nobody lost their jobs...nobody was fired....no supervision (ERISA ???).....no payback period.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not a word in the press. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Guess which constitutency -- bank shareholders or Teamster retirees -- is more important in Michigan this November ? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie100" alt=":wideyed:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 25291150, member: 73489"]What you see and hear about "Wall Street" and banks is usually by folks with an axe to grind and also a lack of financial acumen. [B]Fact: there was no "Wall Street bank" bailout in 2008-09. [/B] But the media continues to lie about it because they all regurgitate the same half-assed sources. The only banks "bailed out" were small community banks plus some non-bank companies which were "bailed out" to make the UNIONS whole (i.e, UAW). JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs each didn't WANT any TARP $$$. They were forced to take it at gunpoint. They paid it back each within 9 months. Citigroup may or may not have made it (I think they would have) -- [B][COLOR=#ff0000]but they got diluted to hell and the stock will need another 30 years to break-even if you owned it in 2007.[/COLOR][/B] Meanwhile....the Teamsters CSPF pension ponzi scheme got $36,000,000,000 from the Covid stimulus. Nobody lost their jobs...nobody was fired....no supervision (ERISA ???).....no payback period. Not a word in the press. :yack: [I]Guess which constitutency -- bank shareholders or Teamster retirees -- is more important in Michigan this November ? :D :wideyed:[/I][/QUOTE]
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