2manyhobbies die progression follow up

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by MatrixMP-9, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    I got a roll of Lumis pennies back in 2018 from Publix. Like half of them showed this chip above the shield. It progresses a bit looking like the sun is rising behind the shield. Heres a few of the pics. Snapshot000001.jpg Snapshot000005.jpg Snapshot000002.jpg Snapshot000006.jpg Snapshot000000.jpg Snapshot000003.jpg Snapshot000004.jpg Snapshot000008.jpg
     
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  3. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Active Member

    I like it,But I don't think it's a die chip, I'm going with die dent. I would like to hear from others as I have multiple quarters with the same effect.
     
  4. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    I posted these awhile ago and someone called it a "chip". Either way, it was cool to see these with no loupe or scope one right after another. Ive never heard of "dent"...cool! Im always learning something! I think there was a total of about 30 in the roll that had evidence of different severity on the coin like this of whatever it was.
     
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  5. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Active Member

    The reason why I'm going with a die dent is because the outer edge seems to be almost perfectly round and not rough as I have found die chips to be.
     
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  6. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    When posting coin photos for consideration, please post whole coin shots of both sides.
     
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  7. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    Seattlite...Im not worried about "considerations" on these coins. It was a followup to another thread talking about examples. Ive posted these before and dont really need further "considerations". It was just an example of progression imo...or maybe it isnt, Im no coin expert. Heres a link if you some reason you really want to see it....but I doubt that....I think you just wanted to tell someone what to do...and thats fine too!

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/2018-p-diamond-ring-behind-shield.332161/
     
  8. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Understanding that you're relatively new to this, and that we have not really interacted, I'll let slide that you misunderstood my recommendation for full photos (and overlooking my use of the word please) as some sort of order or strange desire to tell people what to do. Thank you for sharing the link, the context of the entire coin shot helps us all see the whole coin, or in this instance, all the coins.

    It's very hard to understand what is happening on a coin by a single zoomed in photo. Let me explain to you the remaining questions with the photos you shared here.

    How many different coins do these photos represent?
    Why are they all angled different directions?
    Why does photo four look like the "progression" is actually flat?
    If you have 5 coins in your whole photos shots, why are there 8 shots here?

    Instead of telling you that your photos are useless without more context, I simply asked you to provide photos of the whole coin. Thanks for assuming the worst intentions of me instead. It's certainly conducive to learning and discussion on the subject (sarcasm intended). Edit: this type of response is exactly why I have migrated away from US coins and focused on German States coinage.
     
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  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    @MatrixMP-9

    It's not a die dent. It's a sub-surface crack on the die that is the beginning of a die break. As the die break begins to form below the surface of the die, it expands upward very slightly and makes a small impression on the surface of the coin.

    I've found many of these when I was searching bags of SQ's.

    Chris
     
  10. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    thanks Chris! Now I wont sound like an idiot calling it a chip...or I still will sound like an idiot. It would seem to be a common error.
     
  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I like to call these pre die crack depressions. They are also prominent on the quarter Homestead issue. But your answer is just as good.
     
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I found dozens of these in 1,000-coin SQ bags, the most common of which were the 2005 CA SQ.

    Chris
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    You can call it whatever you like, but I'll guarantee one thing. In a few weeks, some people with bad memories will be using half of your description and half of mine because they can't remember either one.

    Chris
     
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  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's really nice to see full images of both sides of a coin.
     
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  15. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    LOL! You are right!
     
  16. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    I realize. It was just that instead of hyjacking the other thread about progression, I quickly wanted to just show my examples. I really wasnt looking for any real "help" with the coins necessarily because I posted them once way backa awhile ago. I didnt want to be rude and post 3-4 pictures on his thread and muddy it all up.
     
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  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm sorry. I thought you wanted opinions and more information. My mistake.
     
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  18. 2manyhobbies

    2manyhobbies Active Member

    So sub surface cracks are tossers?
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Pretty much, unless you find others that validate the die break progression.

    Chris
     
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