In order to understand how errors occur, one needs to have a good understanding of the minting process. Errors can occur in any one of the three general stages of coin production: planchet, die and striking. Granted, different errors can occur from year to year, but they will all fall into one of these categories and have already been documented at one time or another. You say that you are self-taught, so I have to ask you, "How many books about errors have you read?" Chris
Actually, now that I have had some time to read what teachmind has posted, I can understand, and respect what teachmind says. CoinTalk members should realize that teachmind also speaks Spanish, which could be his primary language.
I'm not sure I believe that. Can you provide proof that the 1972 DDO FS-101 is MD? The Lincoln Cent Resource site doesn't agree with you either. http://www.lincolncentresource.com/doubledies/1972ddo.html
Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids . Heres the most expense one for that year, not the one you posted a link too, its coppercoins DDO-004 . 3000.00 for a MS-65 . Get with the program and here's the link too http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/dietype.php?date=1972&die_mint=p&die_type=do&page=0
OK, you got me on the most expensive one, but I still don't see them refer to this particular variety as MD anywhere on the page.
Hmm, maybe you didn't get me after all on the most expensive one. I found this on doubleddie.com in the Wexler's Die Variety page for 1972 DDO's. It looks like the variety I initially linked to had one sell for $9600 in 2012. So this would be the most expensive after all it appears. Granted this was a higher graded coin (MS67RD) than the DDO-004 (AU58, also sold in 2012), but I haven't found anything that has sold for more than $9600. That aside, there is still no mention (even on Wexler's page) about the DDO-004 or the DDO-001 for that matter (since it is the most expensive one) being anything but doubled dies. Actually, there is another from the Heritage auction in March of 2014 that sold for $12,950. This was also MS67RD. 1972 1¢ WDDO-001 "Best Of" Variety Description: An extremely strong Class I CW spread shows on the letters of LIBERTY, IGWT, the front of the bust, and the date. Die Markers: Obverse: Short, parallel die scratches extend NNE from the rim to the left of the upper L in LIBERTY. Several short die scratches extend ESE from the rim above the N of IN. A short die scratch extends ESE from the rim above the O of GOD. A short die gouge runs SW from the base of the bust to the left of the designer’s initials. Reverse: A die scratch runs SW to NE between the lower I and T of UNITED. A die gouge protrudes from the rim above the D in UNITED. Submitted By: Joseph Koelling Cross References: CONECA: 1-O-I, Cherrypickers’ Guide: FS 01-1972-101 (033.3), Breen:#2265, Crawford:CDDO-001, Coppercoins: 1972P-1DO-001 Values: AU50 = $400, AU58 = $450, MS60 = $475, MS63 = $500, MS65RD = $900, MS67RD = $9,600 The value for the MS67RD grade was determined by the actual final sale price for a PCGS MS67RD specimen that sold in an Ebay auction on March 25, 2012.
I must congratulate you on your decryption skills Rick. I admit, with the hullabaloo I expected a hugely spectacular new error based on the ramblings and not something previously discovered and debated about for years. Silly me OP already posted this nearly identical thread https://www.cointalk.com/threads/can-i-ask-you-guys-a-question-about-everything-oh-gals-too.267111/ And another: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/is-there-an-area-to-chat-about-errors.265902/ After baby let me sleep a few hours I can better decipher what he's getting at. He's talking about a desire to perform tests at the mint during the coining process in order to determine info about error coins, thereby creating a few in the process. Never gonna happen. He is apprehensive to respond with speculations on causes because he's not an expert. I understand this but am trying to relate that being self taught is dangerous if you're not teaching good information. When people turn speculations into fact in their mind it becomes hard for them to accept a factual explanation. These members become notorious for spreading misinformation and usually stop posting. Search member Jral1 for a prime example. Lastly, I'll say this in regards to primary language: I don't care. That may seem harsh but again, I don't care. There are MANY members here to whom English is not their mother tongue. I can understand all of them. I've even responded to posts written entirely in other languages thanks to Google translate. My advice is to write it in your strongest language and either translate directly or include a translation. One guy who posted in Russian explained he did not understand English but I was still able to help.
I love the enthusiasm OP has for errors. I just hope to save him from looking like this https://www.cointalk.com/threads/iv...s-is-it-a-discovery-how-to-protect-it.266446/ Because then I attempt to facepalm right through the frontal lobe and that doesn't help anyone.
I remember that thread, never posted any pictures. Except Mrs. Lincoln who posted blurry pics of some Cent she had.
How about the one who looked for microscopic evidence of significantly older world coins being reused as Lincoln cents?
Ya. Strange. I'm convinced microscopes and Lincolns do strange things to people and moderation must be used.
Completely serious here for a minute... but people with legitimate mental issues, who mean no harm and genuinely want to be involved, will come around here from time to time. I am in no way saying this is the case with the OP. The jokes and stuff are fun and all, to those of us that get it. We are also being a bunch of insensitive pricks at times in all the fun we have at their expense. I love a good joke any time there is an opportunity to make one, but let's not forget that this is really not funny when we look past the thin skin on our eyeballs.
