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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ddddd, post: 2677775, member: 22377&quot;]I agree that no one is forcing the buyer to purchase via presale. That is why I have learned to (mostly) avoid presales.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do think that dealers have more control than they sometimes let on. First of all, many of the expected ship dates are often overly optimistic. I have seen too many releases (of numismatic coins) where the estimated date changes multiple times just as it is about to be the day it is supposed to ship. Also, plenty of dealers are not too upfront. All you see is the typical &quot;production delays made us push the date back.&quot; Why not disclose at the beginning of the sale something like &quot;These Krugerrands are being struck for the first time ever by the South African Mint; they have not undergone such a serious venture in their entire history, so please be patient and expect some delays as the Mint tries to perfect the production of these historic coins. We will offer them for sale the day we have taken delivery from the Mint.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Even with the Krugerrands, there has been way too much speculation. Most of it could have been tamed if we received more timely and accurate updates.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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