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<p>[QUOTE="Tjust, post: 1940373, member: 54632"]I had an interesting situation with mintproducts recently. They have a product listed as a ATB Shenandoah "Special specimen finish". Naturally this piqued my interest as maybe there were some shenandoah's with an alternate rarer finish (like the 2010 Grand Canyon) so I purchased one from MP at around $160 shipped (free shipping promo at the time). </p><p><br /></p><p>I receive it in great shape, and compared it to my US MINT version.....and no difference. I grabbed my loupe and studied the finish on both sides for a good 10 minutes until I was convinced they are identical. I then contacted MP to ask what gives.</p><p><br /></p><p>After 5 minutes of back and forth, it hit me that MP had probably listed the standard Mint vapor blast version as a "Special specimen finish", which IMO is completely misleading. I guess their rationale is, compared to the bullion version, it's a special specimen finish. Either way, it should be listed as "Uncirculated" or simply "Vapor blasted collectors version". The word specimen implies a one-off or not-intended-for-distribution product (at least to me).</p><p><br /></p><p>It was a little comical to hear the CS reps reasoning, such as "Specimen means vapor blasted in the industry". She also quoted the mint verbiage about the vapor blasting process, I guess to imply the vapor blasting is what makes the coin a specimen. </p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, even though I have a sub for one puck at a time from the Mint, I figured I paid pretty much the same as the non sub price from the mint so nothing lost. I hope they change their labeling for the product.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess I should have known this product can't be anything different from what's available from:</p><p><br /></p><p>-Price, at $159 it's pretty much retail, if it indeed was an alternate finish, it would have been priced much higher I'm sure.</p><p><br /></p><p>-The earlier alternate light finishes occurred due to equipment retrofitting (vapor blasting meant for 3" medals), so most likely this only occurred during that time period back in 2010 and once the proper equipment was implemented, the problem, most likely, will not be seen again.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tjust, post: 1940373, member: 54632"]I had an interesting situation with mintproducts recently. They have a product listed as a ATB Shenandoah "Special specimen finish". Naturally this piqued my interest as maybe there were some shenandoah's with an alternate rarer finish (like the 2010 Grand Canyon) so I purchased one from MP at around $160 shipped (free shipping promo at the time). I receive it in great shape, and compared it to my US MINT version.....and no difference. I grabbed my loupe and studied the finish on both sides for a good 10 minutes until I was convinced they are identical. I then contacted MP to ask what gives. After 5 minutes of back and forth, it hit me that MP had probably listed the standard Mint vapor blast version as a "Special specimen finish", which IMO is completely misleading. I guess their rationale is, compared to the bullion version, it's a special specimen finish. Either way, it should be listed as "Uncirculated" or simply "Vapor blasted collectors version". The word specimen implies a one-off or not-intended-for-distribution product (at least to me). It was a little comical to hear the CS reps reasoning, such as "Specimen means vapor blasted in the industry". She also quoted the mint verbiage about the vapor blasting process, I guess to imply the vapor blasting is what makes the coin a specimen. In any case, even though I have a sub for one puck at a time from the Mint, I figured I paid pretty much the same as the non sub price from the mint so nothing lost. I hope they change their labeling for the product. I guess I should have known this product can't be anything different from what's available from: -Price, at $159 it's pretty much retail, if it indeed was an alternate finish, it would have been priced much higher I'm sure. -The earlier alternate light finishes occurred due to equipment retrofitting (vapor blasting meant for 3" medals), so most likely this only occurred during that time period back in 2010 and once the proper equipment was implemented, the problem, most likely, will not be seen again.[/QUOTE]
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