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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1476192, member: 19065"]I understand what you are thinking about however, the fallacy in that thinking, as I already said, is that ordering early will get you <i>better</i>, so called "fresh" coins. That is not true. I have experience receiving subscription orders for Proof ASEs that arrive with noticeable scratches and spots of that milky like substance which the Mint failed to wash off entirely in the cleaning process. Those were "fresh" coins. I've noted the problems on the return form and in some cases sent pictures I took of the coin pointing out the spots and scratches that I found problematic. </p><p><br /></p><p>I've also already responded to the idea that the Mint inspects coins that are returned to them and if finding them acceptable for resale, potentially allowing those to be sent to another customer. The problem is in collectors belief that they are getting poor quality coins based on a subjective idea like grading, and that they are correct in grading coins at all, let alone the coins that they suspect were returns from other customers because they ordered after the first week. There is simply no good evidence to prove that you received returned merchandise, even if the Mint sent out a previously returned coins because, by it's own standards, they found it passing their tolerances. The Mint's idea of what is good and acceptable quality is not the same as the subjective idea collectors have constructed about coins and perfection.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 1476192, member: 19065"]I understand what you are thinking about however, the fallacy in that thinking, as I already said, is that ordering early will get you [I]better[/I], so called "fresh" coins. That is not true. I have experience receiving subscription orders for Proof ASEs that arrive with noticeable scratches and spots of that milky like substance which the Mint failed to wash off entirely in the cleaning process. Those were "fresh" coins. I've noted the problems on the return form and in some cases sent pictures I took of the coin pointing out the spots and scratches that I found problematic. I've also already responded to the idea that the Mint inspects coins that are returned to them and if finding them acceptable for resale, potentially allowing those to be sent to another customer. The problem is in collectors belief that they are getting poor quality coins based on a subjective idea like grading, and that they are correct in grading coins at all, let alone the coins that they suspect were returns from other customers because they ordered after the first week. There is simply no good evidence to prove that you received returned merchandise, even if the Mint sent out a previously returned coins because, by it's own standards, they found it passing their tolerances. The Mint's idea of what is good and acceptable quality is not the same as the subjective idea collectors have constructed about coins and perfection.[/QUOTE]
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