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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1052434, member: 26030"]The following four points taken from this web site (<a href="http://about.ag/debate.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://about.ag/debate.htm" rel="nofollow">http://about.ag/debate.htm)</a> were very interesting </p><p><br /></p><p>1. The best estimates are that there are roughly 6 billion ounces of gold that could be sold without mining (943 million ounces by our count in government stockpiles and ETFs), but perhaps only 2 or 3 billion ounces of silver that could be sold without mining (482 million ounces in government stockpiles and ETFs, by our count). So there may be less silver available for sale than gold! That would suggest silver prices roughly equal to gold prices based on rarity or availability.</p><p><br /></p><p>2. The biggest silver ETF (SLV) has a market cap of <a href="http://us.ishares.com/product_info/fund/overview/SLV.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://us.ishares.com/product_info/fund/overview/SLV.htm" rel="nofollow">$4.9 Billion</a> (as of 29 Jan 2010). As of 22 Nov 2009, total gold ETF holdings were <a href="http://www.commodityonline.com/futures-trading/technical/Combined-Gold-ETF-holdings-at-56.4-million-ounces-12931.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.commodityonline.com/futures-trading/technical/Combined-Gold-ETF-holdings-at-56.4-million-ounces-12931.html" rel="nofollow">56.4 million ounces</a>, worth about $64 Billion. That's 13 times as much money in silver as gold, suggesting that silver prices would go much higher if equal amounts were invested in gold and silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>3. In March, 2008 there was an unprecedented shortage of 'retail silver' (physical silver in forms that all but the largest investors typically purchase). Most large bullion dealers were out of most or all of their silver (and their suppliers were out, too) for a few weeks. Again, in August, 2008, major shortages occurred. This could be attributed to the silver market being small, but if shortages of retail silver haven't occurred in the past, it's a sign that either [1] there is less silver available than before, or [2] investors are purchasing more silver than in the past, or [3] dealers were reducing their inventory (which doesn't make business sense). As one of these shortages began, The Tulving Co started selling 1000 ounce silver bars, suggesting that it was one of the few forms of silver that could be obtained (they are rarely sold in the retail market).</p><p><br /></p><p>4. There are nearly no government stockpiles of silver at present. The United States used to have about <a href="http://www.onlygold.com/articles/ayr_2007/A_Modern_Silver_Story.asp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.onlygold.com/articles/ayr_2007/A_Modern_Silver_Story.asp" rel="nofollow">3 billion ounces</a> of silver, but has gotten rid of it all. If governments want silver at some point, it will significantly increase demand, and therefore the price of silver.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1052434, member: 26030"]The following four points taken from this web site ([URL="http://about.ag/debate.htm"]http://about.ag/debate.htm)[/URL] were very interesting 1. The best estimates are that there are roughly 6 billion ounces of gold that could be sold without mining (943 million ounces by our count in government stockpiles and ETFs), but perhaps only 2 or 3 billion ounces of silver that could be sold without mining (482 million ounces in government stockpiles and ETFs, by our count). So there may be less silver available for sale than gold! That would suggest silver prices roughly equal to gold prices based on rarity or availability. 2. The biggest silver ETF (SLV) has a market cap of [URL="http://us.ishares.com/product_info/fund/overview/SLV.htm"]$4.9 Billion[/URL] (as of 29 Jan 2010). As of 22 Nov 2009, total gold ETF holdings were [URL="http://www.commodityonline.com/futures-trading/technical/Combined-Gold-ETF-holdings-at-56.4-million-ounces-12931.html"]56.4 million ounces[/URL], worth about $64 Billion. That's 13 times as much money in silver as gold, suggesting that silver prices would go much higher if equal amounts were invested in gold and silver. 3. In March, 2008 there was an unprecedented shortage of 'retail silver' (physical silver in forms that all but the largest investors typically purchase). Most large bullion dealers were out of most or all of their silver (and their suppliers were out, too) for a few weeks. Again, in August, 2008, major shortages occurred. This could be attributed to the silver market being small, but if shortages of retail silver haven't occurred in the past, it's a sign that either [1] there is less silver available than before, or [2] investors are purchasing more silver than in the past, or [3] dealers were reducing their inventory (which doesn't make business sense). As one of these shortages began, The Tulving Co started selling 1000 ounce silver bars, suggesting that it was one of the few forms of silver that could be obtained (they are rarely sold in the retail market). 4. There are nearly no government stockpiles of silver at present. The United States used to have about [URL="http://www.onlygold.com/articles/ayr_2007/A_Modern_Silver_Story.asp"]3 billion ounces[/URL] of silver, but has gotten rid of it all. If governments want silver at some point, it will significantly increase demand, and therefore the price of silver.[/QUOTE]
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