2011 ASE 25th Anniversary Set (A25) - Order thread

Originally Posted by Danr
credit cards with expired dates (people forget to update their account when they get a new card)


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'Yes, you are absolutely correct. it happened to me once, not with the U.S. Mint. Fortunately, I still received what I re-ordered. Very good point. I really don't think you would receive the set, if your card had expired. Made sure of that, after my first instance.'

The check card attached to my US Mint account doesn't expire until 10/12 and I have sufficient funds in the corresponding bank account. My only concern is that my bank may deny or place on hold my purchase due to suspected fraud since it is over $1500.00 (five sets) and I have never purchased anything more than $200.00 in a single transaction before. I called my bank's customer service and asked the rep to note the account to the effect that this big purchase will be coming through from the US Mint in the coming weeks, but I don't know if it will prevent my worst-case scenario from being realized (having my order canceled outright or because its gets bumped out of order). One thing going for me is that my shipping and mailing addresses, phone number and emails all match exactly between my bank account and US Mint account. It is my understanding that having different information is the biggest red flag for credit card/banks monitoring for suspected fraudulent transactions. I figure that people who buy gold and platinum from the US Mint make some large purchases. Anyone run into this problem (a big purchase flagged as fraud) before? Thanks for letting me pick your brains, folks.


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4:55 P:M EST placed order, via phone.

 

* By the way, I later removed the four sets from my cart.

 

Does anyone have anymore info on this? I listed a set to sell which is scheduled to start tonight.

 

I do not deal with ebay, nor do I believe in their policies, or stipulations, in which they can change, "at any time".

 

I didn't ask what your opinion of ebay was...nor do I care.

 

"You've got a long way to go , friend".

 

OK. Here's my scenario with Chrome. In years past I always used AOL/Internet Explorer when ordering stuff from the mint. On releases such as this one, I'd always have a devil of a time getting in, getting my stuff, and checking out. It would take 30 to 40 minutes and that's with a high speed connection. This time I used Chrome. I was logged onto the mint site by 11:45. When the gun sounded at 12PM I was off and running, but things slowed down tremendously as you know. At 12:09 I had the order screen up and was able to choose an amount to enter for the order, but, instead of paying attention to what was already in the little box I typed "5" and hit "add to cart" and then "checkout". When the checkout screen appeared it stated that I had 15 in my cart and was over the allowable amount. It took another 5 minutes for me to remedy this mistake. I finally was able to complete the checkout process by 12:19. If I was using AOL/Internet Explorer I'd still be in there. At least that's one mans opinion. Nothing better than Chrome. Simple, light, and fast.......

 

A high speed transmission has "nothing" to do with obtaining a connection. If you seem to think that Chrome works, that's fine, but it's not at all true. Just to sidestep the issue for a moment, or to adjoin the same, I was travelling in the same boat. I made more mistakes than not; similar to you. I even entered my wrong password in my account, which I never have done before. The problems multiplied, the servers slowed, especially when the people in the West awoke. As I have stated in my prior threads, I've been a radio technician for nearly forty years, and could do absolutely nothing. I personally feel that "backchannels" may have been prevalent, although the U.S. Mint states otherwise. I maintain Int. Exp. 9, very good security, see not much of a difference in rendering, nor speed. conducted further tests, as well as line tests, and truly there is not tghat much of a difference, if any. I do not release my data (technical specs) to anyone. You speak as Chrome as 'lightweight', not so. The system is mostly contingent upon the aspect of security. My security is "bullet proof", military standards. it is a little heavy, but I will sacrifice this standard, to insure a highly foolproof security system. I have told you much, but you answer none of my replies, nor questions. Must go to the table now. Reply at your convenience. I shall return shortly.

 

I was just at one of the better shops today. (albeit 75 miles from my house) I talked with dealer about this set and asked if he had managed to get any of them. He has 5 of them on the way and possibly more from others that He knows. He said He`s paying them $200 on top of what they initially paid the mint for them. I asked Him if he was worried about the mint playing games...as they have done in the past with the 5 ounce rounds, with the possibility of a rerelease. (aka burnished releases that come out after the hype dies down) He said that`s a chance that He`s willing to take because He`ll just flip them as soon as He can.

If He`ll make money......God love em. As for me......I guess I`m in the extreme minority......I won`t pay ridiculous premiums for bullion.....especially from the U.S. mint. Not after all the games they play.....and yes I still think it was low class when they did not release proofs for the 09 eagles. At the risk of being unpopular, regarding this set..... I`ll just say this...to each their own. The mint can dry up and blow away for all I care.

 

Your the better man here. My weakness is prone to coins, and I realize that. Your words have significant meaning, and in this light, I would have to agree with you. However, on one note, about this 'coin dealer'. They would say most anything to divert the main issue, and to steer people in the wrong direction, to benefit themselves. The dealer you spoke with may be grasping for straws, or hoping so. The chances are very, very slim, but he has posed the possibility of such, possibly happening. Sounds like a person whom is telling you the truth, but you already know the truth. Keep the faith, this is the most important thing. Everything else is secondary, or does not mean anything. P.S.- I do not understand why you consider the 09 eagle,un-release, as being 'low-class'. No one received anything, nor did it diminish the American Eagle; as proof by this release (5 coin set).

 

P.S.- I do not understand why you consider the 09 eagle,un-release, as being 'low-class'. No one received anything, nor did it diminish the American Eagle; as proof by this release (5 coin set).[/QUOTE]

Others, including myself, felt that the mint was not being honest with their explanation regarding their decision to not make the proofs. Simply put.....I think it is indeed low class for them to make no effort at all regarding the 09 proofs. Why not at least realease a very low amount of them? I know.....they did not even have enough planchets to pump out say....10,000 of them. (as I laugh sarcastically)

I know people who have every silver and gold proof eagle from 86 on up.....EXCEPT for the 09s....and they were steaming. It`s trivial in the grand scheme of life, but still something that I think the mint should have made an attempt to rectify. (other than the release of the 09 gold buffalo, etc)

 

average settled price at e-bay seems going up. now it's over $800.00 a set. one set even pass $1,500.00. i can only say wow.

 

Others, including myself, felt that the mint was not being honest with their explanation regarding their decision to not make the proofs. Simply put.....I think it is indeed low class for them to make no effort at all regarding the 09 proofs. Why not at least realease a very low amount of them? I know.....they did not even have enough planchets to pump out say....10,000 of them. (as I laugh sarcastically)

I know people who have every silver and gold proof eagle from 86 on up.....EXCEPT for the 09s....and they were steaming. It`s trivial in the grand scheme of life, but still something that I think the mint should have made an attempt to rectify. (other than the release of the 09 gold buffalo, etc)[/QUOTE] I can fully understand your position, as well as others, in terms of the 09 Eagle not being released. I maintail all the Eagles, from 86', but wasn't "steaming". I knew there was nothing I could do about it, so what should I do cry. No, you place it behind you, and move on. As far as the possibility of releasing a 09' version, in the future, is highly unlikely. I've never heard where the U.S. Mint released a prior (missing) date in forthcoming years. If it did occur, I know nothing about it. What does it really mean though, that the Mint did not release the 09' Eagle? Again, it means absolutely nothing. To think in terms of trying to influence the U.S. mint, would be foolish. The Mint is a business, like any other; to make money. From time to time, the U.S. Mint will entice us to purchase, maybe more so the customers they have lost, due to these issues. All in all, if you dance with the devil, be prepared to fall at any time, not you per say, but anyone. The coin dealers know this the best, and have learned through this process. If you really knew how they conducted business, I would hope that you would not participate. American Rare Coin, whom I have had many dealings with, (owner) said, " Coin dealers have no soul". This was the owner telling me that. It is really not the game that you play, but how you play the game. Unfortunately, the coin business is not by kindergarten measures, or for the faint of heart. I could elaborate further, but it would only lead unto another issue, in which you would not be interested in; for not many are.

 

The mint has done re-strikes in the past, though the likelihood of that happening today is rather remote.......

 

Makes two of us. I hate it when someone take over a thread. If you've found a place that is still talking about the release of the 25th sets, I'd like to know about it. Too bad you can't post it's location here, guess I'll just start looking. Like to know how anyone has all the Eagles from '86 on and did so without the help of Ebay. Guess Heritage might help. But as I understand it, Heritage is tied to Ebay (or at least works hand in glove).

 

Thank you for the information. I was not quite sure, but you have apparent knowledge of such things.

 

Wow a coin dealer is paying $200 premiums out of the gate? I'd like to have a set, but for that price I'd rather do lunars. Sounds like a hassle no matter how you slice it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_silver_dollar

 

Thank you very much for the information. You know I had some conversations with a big coin dealer, located on Long Island, some years back. I believe it may have been Merit Coins, and his name was John. Do you recall this?