1995 1 oz American Gold Eagle: Real or Counterfeit?

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  1. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    I have attached pictures of a 1995 1 oz American Gold Eagle for members to review and tell me whether you think this coin is genuine and whether you would buy this coin online or not. I will post more information about this coin later today.
     

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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Looks fake as heck to me. Look at the date.
     
  4. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't buy it, looks fake to me as well.
     
  5. slackaction1

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    yeah what kind of price tag ?
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Btw, do you know that there are dozens of listings for fake AGE on Alibaba every day? A VERY faked coin. Always buy them from reputable dealers. One ounce of gold is not a thing to get an "internet deal" on, especially if you yourself are not an expert in them.
     
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  7. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Looks terrible, I would pass!
     
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  8. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Thank you everyone. The price tag paid was $1,944, by someone other than me. I have some followup information I will post on this coin later today, I just want to give others a chance to opine on the coin's genuineness.
     
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  9. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Does this change anyone's mind?

    Grams.jpg Ounces.jpg
     
  10. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Here is the coin again. Eagle Obverse.jpg Eagle Reverse.jpg
     
  11. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    WARNING: The following autopsy pictures contain graphic images that may be disturbing to some people, especially numismatists. Please use caution.
     
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  12. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Obv.jpg Rev.jpg

    Insides of gold plating. Non-magnetic grey metal (unknown). Bent during extraction.
     
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  13. Ana Silverbell

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    Bottom half of gold plating: "pie crust."

    Pie crust.jpg
     
  14. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . . Supporter

    Not even the same date?
     
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  15. Ana Silverbell

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    Other counterfeited coins included gold Buffaloes, Kruggerands, etc. Here is the internal organs of the Kruggerand.

    Kruggerand Obverse.jpg Kruggerand Reverse.jpg
     
  16. Ana Silverbell

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    The coin dealer who bought from the counterfeiter bought a number of coins, over 4 visits from the same person (red flag). $1,944/coin. The gold plating was thick, worth about $250/per coin when you combined the pie top and pie crust. I was able to hold the Gold Eagle and you can feel a ridge at the top of the reeding where the "pie crust" mates with the top (the reeds on the crust rises ever so slightly higher than it should). There were too many red flags for this dealer to make this mistake.
     
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  17. Ana Silverbell

    Ana Silverbell Well-Known Member

    Good catch. That was not the inside of the coin pictured. It was a 1995. There were so many I took the wrong picture. Thank you for catching that but you get in principle what happened here.
     
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  18. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I hope that dealer is sending Guido over to crack some kneecaps.
     
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  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I am shocked that a dealer would not catch it just by appearance. My eye did not like it in one second. That dealer is asking for a hurting if he didn't spot this. There are many better ones out there.
     
  20. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . . Supporter


    I wouldn't want a "better one." I would want a REAL one . . . . .
     
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  21. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I meant better fakes. This one is not that deceptive to anyone who knows the coin, there are much better fakes out there than this one.
     
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