1914-D Lincoln: masterful counterfeit

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  1. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Same die. I didn't realize. Good job.
     
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  3. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    I see some similarities with this one (image courtesy NGC):

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  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Is this one in a slab?
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    With the diagnostics identified on the reverse they could also be used to identify counterfeits of other date and mint combinations. Like the die chip on the inside center of the left wheat stalk that is seen on many Chinese counterfeits of different key date wheat cents. (and some that aren't keys)
     
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  6. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    I have concerns of this coin myself.
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  7. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    C-B-D, no, actually in an NGC article about counterfeit '14-D's.
     
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  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I'm in the process of getting more info on the history of where mine came from. I'll keep you posted.
     
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    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

  10. R_rabbit

    R_rabbit Well-Known Member

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    Hi:)

    Imho, hope you don’t mind I copied your picture then played with the lighting and sharpened the image a little.
    You can see a rectangle out line on “9 1 and 4” .
    It looks like someone had shaved and redid it.
     
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  11. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Looks like a match justafarmer- looks like a couple of other matches but doesn't show many of the marks the previous two show.
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  12. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Common marks aside - as for the obverse - the spread of the date matches all the counterfeits. Which is not the spread for a real 1914 Lincoln Cent. And the location of the mint mark is the same for all.
     
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  13. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Agreed!
     
  14. NYandW

    NYandW Makes Cents!

    Excellent, nice material. Thank you.
     
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  15. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    This is something to take note of. Being the reverse design for the Lincoln Wheat Cent after the "VDB" change in 1909 remained virtually static throughout the series. This counterfeit reverse die could be paired with many different counterfeit obverse dies. There is really no reason for a counterfeiter to go through all the work of creating a new reverse counterfeit die to pair with every new counterfeit obverse.
     
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Looks like a doubled die 4. Doesn't it. I don't have a 11d nor a 14 anything. I'm no help
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Alot of vdb scratches. Nice catch Michael
     
  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Also looks like a tad flattened where vertical and horizontal connect
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    @C-B-D. Thanks for showing this coin
     
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