1814 Capped Bust Half 108a

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by willymac, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. willymac

    willymac Member

    thoughts on grade?

    this variety is marked by the most ridiculous die clashes I think exist on any US Coin.

    Curious how to differentiate things that take away from the grade vs side effects of insane clashes etc.

    estimates on grade would be awesome!!!

    These pics are scans so I am sure they let the worst come out and kill the luster...
     

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  3. willymac

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    looks like the scans are hiding the clashes too - i need to post some other pics with some lighting and angles....its crazy...
     
  4. willymac

    willymac Member

    Better scans
     

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  5. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    The 1814 108a does have some heavy die clashing--especially on the obverse...but the major selling point is still that E over A on the reverse.

    Looks like a nice XF.
     
  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I think it's XF40, but the TPG'S don't know how to grade this die state properly, so it'll end up in a VF holder.
     
  7. Broncoholic

    Broncoholic Well-Known Member

    If this helps you grade yours, feel free to compare. Please excuse the bad quality pictures. IMG_0460.JPG IMG_0471.JPG IMG_0476.JPG
     
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  8. C-B-D

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  9. Broncoholic

    Broncoholic Well-Known Member

    You're saying his is XF all day? Or you think mine is undergraded and SHOULD be XF?
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I think yours is XF based off the scans and assuming original surfaces. Nice pickup - gotta love the over dates and clashing you see in the bust half series.
     
  11. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Whoa! How does that E over A happen?
     
  12. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

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  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Drinking on the clock wasn't frowned upon then. :)
     
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Yours is a 45, his is a 40
     
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  15. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    Vf35? Not sure about the reverse
     
  16. willymac

    willymac Member

    Waiting for it to come back - grade in though - PCGS AU cleaned....how would you price a coin like this that is as rare as this one is???

    If cleaned it is unnoticeable

    Thanks!
     
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  17. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    I thought the reverse looked cleaned. I'm not an expert at all with what color a 200 year old circulated coin should be but the color looks off to me on the reverse.

    I think the AU part softened the blow at least!

    No clue on pricing it but there is a "Details Discount" thread here: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-details-discount-thread.301855/page-34#post-2918386 that may help you gauge what details coins discount at.
     
  18. willymac

    willymac Member

    The clashing is so bad, there are one or two examples straight graded by pcgs that have as weak and flat reverse strikes....sucks too because straight graded at 50 is 2500 and 58 is all the way up near at 6750
     
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