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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mikem2000, post: 2190178, member: 30574&quot;]Well, it would be my guess that the banks have not been convicted of PM manipulation since it really is too small a nut for them.&nbsp; Also I see no end game for them and manipulation really can only be done on a short term basis, not the years the the PM stackers are suggesting.&nbsp; If you see how the end plays out for them, please let me know how you see it, but if you are like me and cannot see a viable plan to make money, it probably is best to conceed that it does not exist.</p><p>Also, as I stated before, it is really not logical to suggest that manipulation was done and yet silver is sitting at fair value.&nbsp; Are you saying they just suck at it???</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as your challenge, just as an FYI, the MODS are not friendly towards real money wagers being presented on the site, so I will have to decline, but just as an FYI, I am not saying I have done as well are you did, but if you did beat me, the only way possible was through extraordinary market timing.&nbsp; If you just did a buy and hold, there is no chance.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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