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<p>[QUOTE="Bluesboy65, post: 1153818, member: 23329"]It's true that the dollar had reached recent historic highs at about 120 in July 2001 (my dollar chart info only goes back to 1985) and this was at a time where the DOW had made it's incredible surge from about $5,500 in 1996 to about $10,500 in July 2001. If you throw out the lows and highs over the past 26 years the dollar has been hanging out in the high 80's or low 90's give or take. If we were to just use 90 as a rough average over the past 25 years and the 74 range that was breached in '08 (this is also the present value) the dollar has lost 17% of it's value since July 2001.</p><p><br /></p><p>If we use 17% as the "adjusted" decline of the dollar, that means that the present DOW level of roughly 12,200 is really worth about 10,614 (remember it was $10,500 in July 2001). Of course if you were buying in to the stock market in 2001 and you have been holding since that time, you're not dealing with adjusted numbers and would have experienced the full 37.5% loss; so the $12,200 DOW is really worth $7,625 in nominal terms.</p><p><br /></p><p>One other point, whether you use 17% or 37.5% loss in value of the dollar over the past decade (take your pick), these are BIG numbers. The Fed could shore up the dollar tomorrow by sharply increasing rates but of course that would inhibit growth, stymie exports, increase unemployment and damage prospects for a recovery. The other alternative is to continued accommodation. Given the Fed’s mandate to "to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates" I expect them to choose the latter. Not sure what constitutes a collapse of the dollar but I do expect it to move lower.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bluesboy65[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bluesboy65, post: 1153818, member: 23329"]It's true that the dollar had reached recent historic highs at about 120 in July 2001 (my dollar chart info only goes back to 1985) and this was at a time where the DOW had made it's incredible surge from about $5,500 in 1996 to about $10,500 in July 2001. If you throw out the lows and highs over the past 26 years the dollar has been hanging out in the high 80's or low 90's give or take. If we were to just use 90 as a rough average over the past 25 years and the 74 range that was breached in '08 (this is also the present value) the dollar has lost 17% of it's value since July 2001. If we use 17% as the "adjusted" decline of the dollar, that means that the present DOW level of roughly 12,200 is really worth about 10,614 (remember it was $10,500 in July 2001). Of course if you were buying in to the stock market in 2001 and you have been holding since that time, you're not dealing with adjusted numbers and would have experienced the full 37.5% loss; so the $12,200 DOW is really worth $7,625 in nominal terms. One other point, whether you use 17% or 37.5% loss in value of the dollar over the past decade (take your pick), these are BIG numbers. The Fed could shore up the dollar tomorrow by sharply increasing rates but of course that would inhibit growth, stymie exports, increase unemployment and damage prospects for a recovery. The other alternative is to continued accommodation. Given the Fed’s mandate to "to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates" I expect them to choose the latter. Not sure what constitutes a collapse of the dollar but I do expect it to move lower. Bluesboy65[/QUOTE]
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