TPG Conservation of Nickel Coinage

BadThad, posted: "You're overthinking it, it's simple and also applies to toning."

I'm not overthinking anything. I just added a bunch of nonsense to make a point. ALL CONSERVATION is some form of cleaning, repairing. replacing, surface alteration, etc. Thus we are in 100% agreement - it's simple. However, your example of toning is NOT THE SAME AT ALL.

"A coin is either considered market acceptable or not - regardless what you call about the journey there.

"Market acceptability" is a TPGS crutch to cover our butts because oxidation is either 100% natural (no matter how long it took) or not natural. Much of the time it is hard to know which it actually is. The same cannot be said for conservation because in many cases of proper conservation the coin looks 100% natural as if it were never touched. So it is either CLEANED or NOT. Just because some cleaned coins are "market acceptable" does not indicate they are not cleaned BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CLEANED IS VISIBLE!

That is why I much prefer to use the terms "cleaned" for not market acceptable and "conserved" for a market acceptable coin. It's a simple matter of colloquial nomenclature for convenience in discussion.

You are free to use any words you wish. Just understand that the conserved coin has been altered - most often by a simple, undetectable cleaning.

It's simple.

As for the 1955-S 1c you asked me about... There is no way to determine the answer as you'll get opinions one way or the other by every famous, knowledgeable, professional numismatist, copper collector/dealer, etc.
But I will not duck an honest question.

I do not like the two-toned coin and would not keep it. It looks chemically treated; however, (thanks for tipping it in the light) if it came into the grading room I should give it a high, straight, RB grade.

 

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I have what i believe to be a very rare coin, a double punch 1964 Jefferson nickel with the N and T missing from Monticello and would appreciate a professional opinion

 

Start a new thread, in either ERROR COINS or WHAT'S IT WORTH?. Post clear, cropped, close-up photos of the front (obverse) and back(reverse).

Folks will let you know what you've got. Be forewarned, 1964 nickels are very common and a lot of damage can occur in a half-century of circulation.

 

SSSsssshhhhhl...1955-S ancient Chinese secret!

 

Buck three eighty five times two because it's punched twice. But then you have to deduct 20% for the missing N and T (some bad luck there).

 

Is "from the horse's mouth" the same as a "professional opinion"?

 

It's as close to any opinion he's going to get from this horse if I can't see the coin.

 

NCS, in my opinion, does their best work with NICKELS. I had one nickel conserved that had PVC on it. Check out the photos...completely gone as if it never existed.

I don't normally recommend silver coins be conserved because NCS tends to leave them looking unnaturally shiny. However, for nickels? NCS is the best.

 

Tsk tsk tsk, Joe. Without a before and after shot how can we determine the efficacy of your claim?

 

unfortunately i never took a before shot

 

I agree and also use those terms cleaned vs. conserved.

 

I didn’t get half way through you text before I said to myself @Lehigh96 Darn. Old thread.

 

Nice job

 

There’s no two ways about it

 

Damn. I did it again paddy

 

If you don’t mind the question, I have two nickels that need a good coin doctor, and I’m willing to pay for their services. If said coin doctors are not at NGC or PCGS, where could I find one that would take my business?

 

Coin doctors don't advertise. Word of mouth between dealers is how you hear of them unless they are cought and exposed by a TPGS. There is someone in TN or KY - who repairs coins. You can send your coins to one of the conservation services. I work at ICG. Why not post an image so we can all see the coins.

 

I love picture 3

 

Please restart this thread and tell us more bout that beautiful crazy Jefferson Nickel