Business Tokens?

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  1. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Hello everyone!

    Does anyone here have their own business tokens/personal tokens? I am planning on having dies made to have my own "hard times" good for one cent tokens just as a novelty. These will be struck on cent planchets as well as in .999 silver.

    I got a couple from David Khan at the FUN show, and they are pretty cool. My design would include a capped bust dime portrait.

    Would like to see some of your business tokens if you have any, for fun or maybe just for inspiration.
     
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  3. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Hope you plan on selling some. If you do, please post them here.
     
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  4. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Might be a while before I am able to but I definitely will post them here!
     
  5. Badger Mint

    Badger Mint Active Member

    I have made some for people and now that I have my new (to me) coin press up and running, I will be making more.
     
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  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Another CT member sent me these from his business.
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    I also have a few more from other members but no photos of them. Wooden Nickels were used for all of them.
     
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  7. louis a bencze

    louis a bencze Active Member

    here's a token my old boss had made for his coinshop. 20200527_125627[4417].jpg
     
  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I didn’t strike any pieces (though I think that would be cool), I did have a coupe thousand wooden nickels made many years ago that look suspiciously like those in a previous post;)..... I thought it was a great novelty. My sales guys thought they were lame and I never got the traction from them that I had hoped for. It wasn’t a big expense..... I only say this because I suspect that striking a marketing piece would be costly. I would hate to see you sink a lot of expense into something that didn’t give you some reward in return...... It beats the year I bought baseball caps though. A TV news guy interviewed somebody in an unemployment line. The fellow being interviewed was wearing my ballcap!
     
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I made some of these and it was fairly inexpensive.

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  11. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Hi, thank you for your response. Not sure why I didn't see it a year ago.

    Those tokens are awesome. It's cool that you were able to engrave the dies and everything too.

    I am now at the point where I am just about ready to have the dies made for my tokens. The obverse will have a Capped bust design and the reverse will have the Mexican eagle from the first republic 1 reale.

    Planning on pressing it using filed penny planchets, which is easy now that I have a grindstone. I will also try to make some silver ones which might be hard as I will have to shape the planchets myself.

    Can't wait to have them in hand and probably try to sell a few. Then again it's more just for fun than profit, I would be surprised to break even.
     
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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Why not just buy some silver blanks?
     
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  13. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    That is actually what I am doing now. Originally I made an attempt to make 2.5-3g planchets and they ended up looking more like cobs as I couldn't get them perfectly round.

    Also I initially had some trouble finding them at a decent price. A lot of the stores I looked at were asking huge premiums.
     
  14. Badger Mint

    Badger Mint Active Member

    I just make a punch and die set for the size blank I need and cut blanks from sheet stock. If I want to overstrike an already struck coin, I make a blank die and collar set and flatten the coin this way so that it stays round.
     
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  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What do you do with the left over silver webbing?

    Looks like you can get a manual rolling mill for under $200 so I guess you could melt the scrap down, cast it into some ingots and roll it out again into new sheet.
     
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  16. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    I don't have webbing. I took chunks of .999 silver cut from fractional bars and hammered them down until they were about the diameter of a dime. Then I used a 19mm washer to hammer them in and shape out the planchets.

    It was just a small cheap experiment, unfortunately the planchets aren't perfectly round and flat. Though they do look extremely similar to hammered medieval coinage/cob reales.

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    I ordered a ton of copper planchets and I will order silver ones once the dies ship. My friend said he wanted to buy the "cob" ones once I strike them. I wonder how they will turn out.
     
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  17. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    I actually tried making my own dies with a dremel a long time ago. Did not work at all, I think the design was too shallow. It does seem like a very hard thing to master, especially when trying to replicate the engravery the Romans, Greeks, etc did.

    I just don't have the resources/time/experience to make my own dies. St Augustine mint on IG and YouTube does it very well.
     
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  18. Badger Mint

    Badger Mint Active Member

    a $200 rolling mill is going to be a disappointment, don't waste your money. for silver, I either do as you said, melt, cast, and roll out, or I just sell it back to my local coin dealer and get nice fresh bars. the small monetary loss is worth the time savings to me.


    I ordered a ton of copper planchets and I will order silver ones once the dies ship. My friend said he wanted to buy the "cob" ones once I strike them. I wonder how they will turn out.[/QUOTE]

    Where did you order your blanks from? Sometimes it's nice not to have to make them.

    I make dies using whatever tools are at hand, punches, hand gravers, hammer and chisel, rotary for bulk material removal, and a pantograph for nice, crisp lettering. My avatar is a die I completely hand cut for Tom Maringer at the Shire Post Mint, it is part of the Game of Thrones coin series he sells.
     
  19. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    Where did you order your blanks from? Sometimes it's nice not to have to make them.

    I make dies using whatever tools are at hand, punches, hand gravers, hammer and chisel, rotary for bulk material removal, and a pantograph for nice, crisp lettering. My avatar is a die I completely hand cut for Tom Maringer at the Shire Post Mint, it is part of the Game of Thrones coin series he sells.[/QUOTE]
    I got the copper planchets from an etsy store that was selling them for 50c apiece. A little pricier than what I initially wanted to pay, but I figured it's much easier than the labor it takes to grind and polish penny planchets.

    The only tool I have from that list is the hammer, lol. I have always wanted to get into hobo nickel carving, whenever I get to that it should be easier to make dies. Though I have no idea where to get the iron/steel rods.
     
  20. Cachecoins

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    I never sold any of my coins, I leave them in the leave a penny take a penny tray in different places or just drop them here and there for someone to find.
     
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