Do you Consider a Dipped Coin to Be Cleaned?

But also remember Morgan and Peace dollars were never Originally ever sold in rolls. They all came in bags. Anything that ended up in rolls came from a bag to begin with. Don’t want to get off topic here but wanted to clarify. All the best to fellow searchers!

 

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Understood. However, pre-air conditioning days, this would be difficult to control. You might be able to store them in a basement, but those tend to be humid as well.

 

Peace $ came in rolls, and I suppose it might be possible that 1921 Morgans did as well, but certainly early Morgans did not. That said I have never personally seen a real OBW Peace $ roll. I suspect there may be very few if any left.

 

Most rolling machines were not used by the banks at all, but by the vending machine and streetcar companies. The machines were invented in order to have a reliable way to count, store, and transport coins received from the public...not going from the bank to the public. But even back to 1921 patent dates there were paper wrapper blanks capable of wrapping $1 coins, and therefore there were machines which could do this, so there must have been some demand for them either going to the banks or coming from the banks. People don't make things for no reason.

 

I already said above I have never seen what I consider an OBW Dollar roll. When I see them for sale I always caution folks about them. So I think we are on the same page on this. My point is that machines and tubes were available for them, so at least for some purpose rolls must have existed in small quantities.

 

Dipping is a preservation technique when done right but always get a second opinion before doing so depending on the piece. There was a coin no one could identify until I did a "dip" and it brought out enough detail so I could ID it as a Queen Victoria Sixpence. A very nice surprise indeed!

 

I only brought that up originally about the rolls/mint bags as it always seem like a very popular discussion on the forums here. There's always so many new people and want people to do their homework before spending wads of cash on "OBW" rolls. I would have done that had not a lot of fine people helped me in the beginning as well.

 

ok I tried to read thru the 9 pages but, I didnt see the answer i was looking for. And that is what about dipped pennies? Is this a real thing or is it mostly silver coins that get dipped? Im a new collector and know nothing about dipped pennies, or dipping at all.

 

What @GDJMSP said.

But just to clarify (and GDJMSP can correct me if I'm wrong)... it is always (almost always?) *silver* coins that are dipped.

There are other liquids that are used on copper coins such as acetone, xylene, etc., but from what I've seen, the term "dipping" usually applies to silver?

 

I would tend to agree with this. Usually when someone talks about "dipping" a coin it is a treatment to remove a silver oxide layer.

 

Yes, we have discussed that before and it's an interesting idea.

I think the fact that there is a commercially available silver dipping solution (solutions) on the market tends to skew this belief. As we have discussed...the issue of dipping copper coins is somewhat of a "trade secret" among some people. I know someone here (may have been you Doug) claimed they witnessed it successfully done but didn't know what was used. I also understand that the number of red coppers in existence and the relative reactivity of the metal does seem suspicious as well...and is evidence that something is being done.

How it's being done...I haven't a clue.

What about gold? I know gold doesn't tone much and usually when it does it is subtle and attractive and left alone. But, is there a dip out there that will remove the oxide layer from a gold coin?

 

CamaroDMD, posted: 3009745, member: "I also understand that the number of red coppers in existence and the relative reactivity of the metal does seem suspicious as well...and is evidence that something is being done. How it's being done...I haven't a clue.

I have no clue either! I've heard that "they" pick it up with something and place it in something. Then they dry it with something.

 

That makes sense...I knew something must be going on.

 

Interesting thread...I still need to read it. For now, a dipped coin is "cleaned" in the general sense of the word.

 

I think dipping in a harsh solution may be very detrimental to the coin. I would rather have an old coin with a few flaws than a coin that looks like was dipped in sulfuric acid, nobody ever mentions what type product are used for dipping and most raw peace dollars and Morgans seem to be either cleaned or dipped. sometimes a lite dip in silver jewelry cleaner (10 seconds) removes crud and dirt from a coin but also removes any toning. I guess it's up to the individual. There was a seller on ebay who was very honest and said all the coins he was selling had been cleaned in there lifetime and not worthy to grade,a real good guy to buy from, I hate to see graded coins that come back cleaned, just lowers the enthusiasm.