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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4986944, member: 39084"]Again, there are some misconceptions in your post that I'd like to clarify. </p><p><br /></p><p>You write "So if you trust the auctioneers..." implying that I don't trust the auctioneers if I use the services of an advisor. This implication is incorrect. As I wrote previously, I pay the advisor to provide expertise that I don't have, or may not have. The auctioneer and/or the auctioneer's staff may or may not have the level of expertise I need to purchase a coin for my collection. It would be irresponsible of me to rely solely on the auctioneer's catalog description and picture to make a decision on that coin, especially in the price range of coins that I collect. An expert dealer/advisor that I know and trust provides a level of due diligence that enables me to purchase a coin with a high level of confidence -- anything less would be irresponsible.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't use the word "hidden" because of its pejorative nature and implication that I believe something is purposely being kept from me. A more accurate way of phrasing this issue is that I'm looking for the most complete information as possible on a coin on which I want to bid.</p><p><br /></p><p>You also write "Well if your coins hammer 2-5 times less of their hammers 2-3 years ago then somewhere in the loop there's a bad estimation." This is not accurate, since there are so many factors that affect the future value of a speculative investment such as coins, stamps, art -- in fact <i>any</i> collectibles -- that it's generally not possible to definitively state that a coin was overpriced at its hammer price in any given auction. Of course we all have our individual opinions about whether or not a coin is overpriced, but since I'm a collector of ancient coins and not an investor in their future value, a coin's future appreciation is usually irrelevant to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Like AncientJoe, my dealer has recommended against more purchases than he's recommended for. It is unfortunate that you don't appear to have had the experience of working with honest and ethical dealers and advisors, but they do exist -- not everyone is motivated solely by maximizing their profit and are out to cheat you in order to do that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4986944, member: 39084"]Again, there are some misconceptions in your post that I'd like to clarify. You write "So if you trust the auctioneers..." implying that I don't trust the auctioneers if I use the services of an advisor. This implication is incorrect. As I wrote previously, I pay the advisor to provide expertise that I don't have, or may not have. The auctioneer and/or the auctioneer's staff may or may not have the level of expertise I need to purchase a coin for my collection. It would be irresponsible of me to rely solely on the auctioneer's catalog description and picture to make a decision on that coin, especially in the price range of coins that I collect. An expert dealer/advisor that I know and trust provides a level of due diligence that enables me to purchase a coin with a high level of confidence -- anything less would be irresponsible. I don't use the word "hidden" because of its pejorative nature and implication that I believe something is purposely being kept from me. A more accurate way of phrasing this issue is that I'm looking for the most complete information as possible on a coin on which I want to bid. You also write "Well if your coins hammer 2-5 times less of their hammers 2-3 years ago then somewhere in the loop there's a bad estimation." This is not accurate, since there are so many factors that affect the future value of a speculative investment such as coins, stamps, art -- in fact [I]any[/I] collectibles -- that it's generally not possible to definitively state that a coin was overpriced at its hammer price in any given auction. Of course we all have our individual opinions about whether or not a coin is overpriced, but since I'm a collector of ancient coins and not an investor in their future value, a coin's future appreciation is usually irrelevant to me. Like AncientJoe, my dealer has recommended against more purchases than he's recommended for. It is unfortunate that you don't appear to have had the experience of working with honest and ethical dealers and advisors, but they do exist -- not everyone is motivated solely by maximizing their profit and are out to cheat you in order to do that.[/QUOTE]
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