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<p>[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 4986809, member: 44357"]Correct, you only pay them if you're successful. And sure, if they're an untrustworthy dealer, they'd encourage you to pay more or recommend coins they'd run up. But, good dealers will talk you <i><b>off </b></i>of buying coins more often than recommending you bid higher.</p><p><br /></p><p>More than half of the coins I'd like to bid on, the dealers I've used recommend against buying for one reason or another. And I'm probably only successful on one fourth of the remaining half.</p><p><br /></p><p>For this Zodiac coin, I first suggested the bid of $15K, and in the reply I posted, my dealer confirmed that it would make sense. I came to that number from looking at comparable coins through CoinArchives and, because the coin checked out in-hand (wasn't tooled, etc.) that value made sense to me. It cost me less than that as there wasn't an underbidder at that level (perhaps because they were bidding instead on the Pius Zodiac later in the sale which sold for $11K) but that's what it's worth to me.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are times when my dealer tells me I'm too strong on a coin and it's not worth as much so I'll reduce my bid, or cases where I should be more aggressive. If you're working with someone trustworthy, they're going to give you good advice with rationale and data to back it up.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AncientJoe, post: 4986809, member: 44357"]Correct, you only pay them if you're successful. And sure, if they're an untrustworthy dealer, they'd encourage you to pay more or recommend coins they'd run up. But, good dealers will talk you [I][B]off [/B][/I]of buying coins more often than recommending you bid higher. More than half of the coins I'd like to bid on, the dealers I've used recommend against buying for one reason or another. And I'm probably only successful on one fourth of the remaining half. For this Zodiac coin, I first suggested the bid of $15K, and in the reply I posted, my dealer confirmed that it would make sense. I came to that number from looking at comparable coins through CoinArchives and, because the coin checked out in-hand (wasn't tooled, etc.) that value made sense to me. It cost me less than that as there wasn't an underbidder at that level (perhaps because they were bidding instead on the Pius Zodiac later in the sale which sold for $11K) but that's what it's worth to me. There are times when my dealer tells me I'm too strong on a coin and it's not worth as much so I'll reduce my bid, or cases where I should be more aggressive. If you're working with someone trustworthy, they're going to give you good advice with rationale and data to back it up.[/QUOTE]
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