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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4986775, member: 39084"]This seems like an excellent opportunity to clear up some misconceptions about why a collector like me would use a dealer as an advisor.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fundamentally, I pay a dealer/advisor to provide expertise that I don't, or may not, possess.</p><p><br /></p><p>This includes, but isn't limited to, opinions about tooling or re-engraving, additions such as filling and epoxy, repatination, scratches, authenticity, provenance, pricing, market conditions, potential bidders, the auction house, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not sure what you mean by "hidden" but regardless, the above paragraph should be sufficient to answer that question.</p><p><br /></p><p>When you write "If you think he's good because gasvoda said so, then have a look of the recent hammers of gasvoda coins vs what he paid." you imply that you personally approach ancient coin collecting from an investment viewpoint. I don't. Whatever advice my dealer gives me about my maximum bid, I understand that it is based on current market conditions and those may change dramatically in the future. Whether or not I might sell the coin in the future for a profit or loss does not enter into my consideration for bidding on the coin, period. Of course, you're entitled to collect ancient coins based on their investment value and future appreciation, but this is not my personal reason for collecting.</p><p><br /></p><p>You also write "It's clear for me that the recent prices are dictated by a few such advisors." This is simply an assertion that may or may not be supportable by factual data and statistical analysis, but my own observation does not support this assertion. </p><p><br /></p><p>The final misconception I would like to clear up is your assertion that advisors "tell" their clients what to bid. This is simply not true. The role of an advisor in a collector's bidding limit is to provide advice based on current market conditions and other information (e.g., knowledge of other potential bidders) that aid the buyer in determining his/her maximum bid. No serious collector would ever accept being "told" what to bid.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4986775, member: 39084"]This seems like an excellent opportunity to clear up some misconceptions about why a collector like me would use a dealer as an advisor. Fundamentally, I pay a dealer/advisor to provide expertise that I don't, or may not, possess. This includes, but isn't limited to, opinions about tooling or re-engraving, additions such as filling and epoxy, repatination, scratches, authenticity, provenance, pricing, market conditions, potential bidders, the auction house, etc. I'm not sure what you mean by "hidden" but regardless, the above paragraph should be sufficient to answer that question. When you write "If you think he's good because gasvoda said so, then have a look of the recent hammers of gasvoda coins vs what he paid." you imply that you personally approach ancient coin collecting from an investment viewpoint. I don't. Whatever advice my dealer gives me about my maximum bid, I understand that it is based on current market conditions and those may change dramatically in the future. Whether or not I might sell the coin in the future for a profit or loss does not enter into my consideration for bidding on the coin, period. Of course, you're entitled to collect ancient coins based on their investment value and future appreciation, but this is not my personal reason for collecting. You also write "It's clear for me that the recent prices are dictated by a few such advisors." This is simply an assertion that may or may not be supportable by factual data and statistical analysis, but my own observation does not support this assertion. The final misconception I would like to clear up is your assertion that advisors "tell" their clients what to bid. This is simply not true. The role of an advisor in a collector's bidding limit is to provide advice based on current market conditions and other information (e.g., knowledge of other potential bidders) that aid the buyer in determining his/her maximum bid. No serious collector would ever accept being "told" what to bid.[/QUOTE]
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