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<p>[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4986573, member: 39084"]I thought it might be worthwhile to provide a counterpoint to the somewhat apocalyptic view of ancient coin auctions, dealers, and advisors that is presented in this post. My comments are based on 13 years of experience buying coins at auction and from individuals based on the advice of my dealer. My dealer aided Mike Gasvoda in accumulating his magnificent collection that was sold by NAC, beginning with auction 86. If you want to read Mike's profusely complimentary comments about my dealer, feel free to read them online in pages 9 - 10 of the catalog:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.arsclassicacoins.com/catalogues/auction-86/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.arsclassicacoins.com/catalogues/auction-86/" rel="nofollow">https://www.arsclassicacoins.com/catalogues/auction-86/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>First, it is not my experience that auctions have turned into a casino. In any auction there always will be a few coins that inspire spirited bidding, with a hammer price that seems far in excess of the coin's fair market value. This does not make the auction a casino, nor even that particular coin. While I have experienced some auctions that seem preordained to result in higher prices for most or all of their coins, this can be due to any number of factors -- new deep-pocketed buyers, pre-selling by the auction house to its clients, etc. If you have a reasonable budget based on thorough research, you simply stick to your budget and let the hammer fall where it may.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second, it seems somewhat invidious to imply that an advisor could possibly be/have been dishonest and even colluded with the auction house without having any firsthand knowledge of the situation -- the advisor him/herself, the actual advice given, the auction house and its reputation/personnel, etc. Of course dishonest advisors exist, and of course dishonesty has, and will continue, to occur during ancient coin auctions. But it's clear from AncientJoe's post that he received an outstanding evaluation and advice from his dealer, as shown by his confidence in posting his dealer's comments.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm still trying to figure out what purpose is served by the post that I quoted. If it's intended to be cautionary, then I would observe that it would have more relevance by citing a failed bit of advice from an unscrupulous advisor, rather than a successful piece of advice from an advisor who did his/her homework. If the post was intended to illustrate the "casino" nature of auctions, then I would expect that AJ's coin would have hammered for more than the advisor's suggested budget rather than less.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe that most of the collectors here want to learn from others' actual experiences, both good and bad, and AJ's experience is an example of a good one. There have been bad experiences posted here as well, and they serve as useful guidance for the future. It's my belief that we learn the most from posts focused on specific, actual experiences rather than general, personal assertions about the direction of our hobby.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="IdesOfMarch01, post: 4986573, member: 39084"]I thought it might be worthwhile to provide a counterpoint to the somewhat apocalyptic view of ancient coin auctions, dealers, and advisors that is presented in this post. My comments are based on 13 years of experience buying coins at auction and from individuals based on the advice of my dealer. My dealer aided Mike Gasvoda in accumulating his magnificent collection that was sold by NAC, beginning with auction 86. If you want to read Mike's profusely complimentary comments about my dealer, feel free to read them online in pages 9 - 10 of the catalog: [URL]https://www.arsclassicacoins.com/catalogues/auction-86/[/URL] First, it is not my experience that auctions have turned into a casino. In any auction there always will be a few coins that inspire spirited bidding, with a hammer price that seems far in excess of the coin's fair market value. This does not make the auction a casino, nor even that particular coin. While I have experienced some auctions that seem preordained to result in higher prices for most or all of their coins, this can be due to any number of factors -- new deep-pocketed buyers, pre-selling by the auction house to its clients, etc. If you have a reasonable budget based on thorough research, you simply stick to your budget and let the hammer fall where it may. Second, it seems somewhat invidious to imply that an advisor could possibly be/have been dishonest and even colluded with the auction house without having any firsthand knowledge of the situation -- the advisor him/herself, the actual advice given, the auction house and its reputation/personnel, etc. Of course dishonest advisors exist, and of course dishonesty has, and will continue, to occur during ancient coin auctions. But it's clear from AncientJoe's post that he received an outstanding evaluation and advice from his dealer, as shown by his confidence in posting his dealer's comments. I'm still trying to figure out what purpose is served by the post that I quoted. If it's intended to be cautionary, then I would observe that it would have more relevance by citing a failed bit of advice from an unscrupulous advisor, rather than a successful piece of advice from an advisor who did his/her homework. If the post was intended to illustrate the "casino" nature of auctions, then I would expect that AJ's coin would have hammered for more than the advisor's suggested budget rather than less. I believe that most of the collectors here want to learn from others' actual experiences, both good and bad, and AJ's experience is an example of a good one. There have been bad experiences posted here as well, and they serve as useful guidance for the future. It's my belief that we learn the most from posts focused on specific, actual experiences rather than general, personal assertions about the direction of our hobby.[/QUOTE]
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